Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Handset lifter


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Headset (audio).  MBisanz  talk 21:04, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Handset lifter

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Non-notable topic; "sourced" to (and I quote) "common sense" and two commercial websites. Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  21:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. In its current state, there is no verifiable notability. While I don't necessarily have a problem with sources from commercial sites, these just go to the main page of the site, and are therefore useless. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 21:59, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: Not sure if it will be of any help, but there are a number of patents and a number of scholarly articles listed here. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 22:09, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * reply - when you take out the patents, what's left is an article about voice recognition in law offices. I'm not seeing the WP:GNG here. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  22:14, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's why I voted to delete it. I don't have the time to look through every one of those, however, and I don't see how this topic merits more than a paragraph in the Telemarketing article. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 22:19, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. North America1000 03:23, 13 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment: I know not everyone has time to read through all the scholarly articles, but does that necessarily mean that the article should be deleted? Looking into it, whilst recent products seem to be mainly developed by Plantronics, I note in the patent info there are several similar devices for lifting the handset off hook, many of them not related to the use of a wireless handsfree telephone headset system. It might be interesting to explore the role a handset lifter had in other areas of telecommunications. I think it has a place on Wikipedia, but perhaps not an entire page, so at least until the content can be increased, I'd vote for a Merge to Headset (audio) Wireless Headsets Section. Landlineman (talk) 20:49, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge to Headset (audio) (or the Wireless headsets section, either is fine). I have added three sources verifying basic facts about handset lifters. With theses sources, I think there is enough verifiability to support and merge into the headset article as an alternative to deletion per WP:ATD. Such lifters are still used by disabled folk. I did not find enough in-depth sourcing to pass notability, per WP:GNG, so a merge seems best. --Mark viking (talk) 21:21, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   16:07, 20 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Merge - Agree with Mark viking. The page should be merged to Headset (audio). Meatsgains (talk) 17:40, 20 August 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.