Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hang gliding fatalities involving hang gliders with TCF


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Tone 14:19, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Hang gliding fatalities involving hang gliders with TCF

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Not really a notable or encyclopedic subject for a stand alone article which is really a very small list of fatal accidents to non-notable persons. Adds no value that a paragraph on safety in Hang gliding could not do so. MilborneOne (talk) 19:22, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. The Bushranger One ping only 19:39, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep The persons are notable. The studies referenced are notable. The topic is encyclopedic matter. Joefaust (talk) 20:13, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: in the context of Wikipedia Notable means that Wikipedia has an article about that person, so these are not notable people in that sense, just because they died hang gliding. - Ahunt (talk) 20:23, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete A very confused article as it is very unclear what the purpose and scope is supposed to be. It sort of looks like the intention is to collect a list of every hang gliding fatality, which would run to many thousand names, making this a WP:INDISCRIMINATE problem. I agree that the subject of hang gliding safety needs to be addressed in Wikipedia, but this is not the right way to go about it. I would support a section on this within Hang gliding that summarizes existing studies on safety, but a complete or incomplete list of fatalites is more like a memorial. - Ahunt (talk) 20:23, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - USHPA reported 2 fatalities in 2003. How many thousand years has this sport been in existence? Carrite (talk) 07:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - article appears to be OR (assembling statistics from summation of news reports etc). Safety record of hang gliding should be attempted in the main article rather than jumping to a sub-article. As it stands article is incomplete - jumping from one incident in 1896 (which isn't in the article title scope and has been included erroneously) to 2003. Better to burn the article and for the author to start again in userspace. GraemeLeggett (talk) 20:36, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Start-article editor here: I note here and ask for admin to effect, if wanted: I abandon the article to WikiProject. I do not know how to effect that, even if possible. Others might take up the article.  Thank you all for your first consideration. If WP does face safety in hang gliding, then keeping the TCF sector separate from the canopy-long-line-to-pilot paraglider hang gliders would serve the world best; mixing the two would destroy opportunities.  Retired from this article. KEEP it. Joefaust (talk) 21:49, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If you are the original author of the page do this: Edit the page. Delete all content and leave &#123;&#123;db-g7&#125;&#125; at the top of the page. This indicates to WP Admins that you no longer want the page. 88xxxx (talk) 22:46, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - aside from the comments above, after looking over the Triangle control frame article, the whole TCF thing appears to be textbook WP:SYNTH, if not purely WP:MADEUP. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - This article is of almost no value, as well as having zero notability.Petebutt (talk) 04:32, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete lists should be of items notable in their own right, either notable people, events, or for bibliographies, books considered useful reference sources for other articles. This is a nonnotable list, whose subject could get at best a small paragraph at hang gliding. also Category:Deaths by hang gliding Category:Deaths by paragliding have only these articles in them (sort of a 4 cornered walled garden), and no notable individuals who have died in this manner.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:57, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
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