Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hanna (Korean name)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) JesseRafe (talk) 18:35, 8 November 2019 (UTC) Withdrawn by nominator, spurious OR removed by other editors, and it stands as a standard set index article, as noted below. JesseRafe (talk) 18:31, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Hanna (Korean name)

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Poorly written original research and unsourced claim. Two notable individuals have this name, but there is no info that their uses are related to each other and most significantly to the Hebrew name Hannah.

This user has a long habit of adding unrelated homophones to various articles, never using any citations. About a week ago, the user added these two people to the "Notable people named Hannah" section on that article and they were removed. They also add various unrelated Korean and Japanese names to name articles in/from other languages. The existence of this OR page is only justifying their disruptive behavior. JesseRafe (talk) 14:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: The page creator was just blocked 72 hours for persistent addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content. JesseRafe (talk) 16:23, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. JesseRafe (talk) 14:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. JesseRafe (talk) 14:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think classifying the creation of this article as deliberately "disruptive behaviour" is entirely correct. If one assumes good faith, it looks more like an evolving attempt to understand and adapt to how things work around here. What User:서덕민 seems to fail to grasp, is that they need to have some references (citations) behind what is written. I'll leave it to others about whether this name is notable or not. Nfitz (talk) 15:54, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It doesn't even get to the point of whether it is notable if it can't even be ascertained for truth. The user has a history of spurious additions based on their own fancy and this has no sources. Notability is not the question, it should be spedily deleted, but there was not a neat and tidy option for that. JesseRafe (talk) 16:23, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Doesn't the existence of Gwon Han-na (and a reference), Kang Han-na (ref), and Han-na Chang (ref) confirm that it is indeed a Korean female given name? To me the question is notability - and English spelling (Hanna vs Hana vs Han-Na vs Han Na all from 한나), and whether this could be merged with it's homonym Hannah (name) or List of Korean given names. I don't see spurious editing, or disruption (beyond the lack of good citations). Nfitz (talk) 18:58, 6 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Draftify to Draft:Han-na. First of all, the spelling "Hanna" is not supported by any sources, and so the article would, at the very least, need to be moved to "Han-na". The paper from The SNU Journal of Education Research added as an external link by (thank you for that, it was very helpful!) discusses how Korean given names written in a Romanized form generally have hyphens between the syllables. See also List of Korean given names which has "Han", 한, in its list of first syllables.


 * There are three people called Han-na with articles in Wikipedia, so it certainly exists. The SJER paper includes "Han-na" in a list of foreign first names for girls in 1996, but that is a very tenuous source to use in order to state for certain that the name is etymologically related to "Hannah" (especially as it doesn't say that – it's a natural inference to make, but I wouldn't want to accept that kind of OR). The paper does not discuss the name specifically, unfortunately, and I haven't (yet) been able to find any other sources. (I thought for a while that this was the same name as Ha-na, discussed in Hana (name), but that's written with 하, not 한.) --bonadea contributions talk 10:06, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree - but I note that 2 of the 3 articles I referenced above, just happen to use the Hanna spelling despite the Wikipedia articles for the same people using Han-na; I don't know if there is any implication from that. Nfitz (talk) 13:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. Where is the "original research" or "unsourced claim"? This is merely a set index article for notable people with the Korean given name "Han-na", no different to so many others. The people on the list do not need to be related to each other, that's the point of an SIA. The name doesn't appear to be particuarly notable, but a source has been added and the nom doesn't make a compelling or even valid case for deletion. PC78 (talk) 16:28, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I would suggest, however, that if kept or draftified the article is moved to . PC78 (talk) 16:30, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I think my nom can be withdrawn. At the time of the nomination there was OR and an unsourced claim that the Korean name was derived from the Hebrew name. This page creation followed [a few attempts by the creator https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hannah_(name)&action=history to add these Han-nas] to the Hannah (name) article. As an SIA, I think it passes muster as it conclusively exists, and I also agree that it unambiguously should be found at Han-na with no disambiguating qualifiers required. The fact that it was unnecessarily made at this name space speaks to the WP:CIR issues a now-blocked editor brought up at an ANI about this now-blocked editor, the page creator. JesseRafe (talk) 18:29, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


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