Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hannah Dasher


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Seraphimblade Talk to me 18:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Hannah Dasher

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Non-notable "viral sensation". Has may views on tik tok, but no critical notice, never had a charted single and no coverage in RS/extensive coverage upon which we can build an article. Oaktree b (talk) 20:42, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Women. Oaktree b (talk) 20:42, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:57, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * With nearly a dozen or more other articles on this site for "viral sensations," I don't think your argument holds much weight. She's featured in a national ad campaign, headlining tours with major acts, written songs for others, and sang/played on other recordings, she's got enough information out there to build a case. There are similar musicians like her on this site that have never had a charted single. Where are these unwritten rules for creating an article for someone? And if there is such rules, who selectively follows them? Bluesman2383 (talk) 00:25, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * No, the rules of singers are pretty clear, see WP:MN. She's not appeared in published works, had two or more records/singles, has never charted nor certified gold. She likely also doesn't meet WP:BIO as we don't have multiple sources discussing her at length. Oaktree b (talk) 03:05, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * One small biography for the scholarship, rest are linkedin, tour bios and non-RS websites. She hasn't received enough critical attention for her works. Being featured in an ad campaign is fine, but we need things that talk about her, none of which we have. Oaktree b (talk) 03:08, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * She's been on Rachel Ray - there's a newspaper article in their from The Tennessean and a Billboard Magazine article. Not sure those are non-RS websites. Again, feeling like you are arbitrarily nitpicking. There's many others on here with far less that remain or are considered "stubs." Bluesman2383 (talk) 23:40, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Rachel Ray isn't a reliable source. Those other two might not be extensive. Oaktree b (talk) 14:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment There is a review in PopMatters (2021) of The Half Record, and a review with some interview in the The Moultrie Observer (2021) that notes her TikTok popularity due to her "Stand by Your Pan" cooking series in 2020, and "she has recently been named in the Class of 2021 CMT Next Women of Country". The CMT list has 10 country artists, and a solid graf summarizing her career through Jan. 2021. Dasher was also interviewed by American Songwriter in 2021, which includes some contextual details about her career (e.g. "named a 2021 Fender Next Artist", when she began releasing music, performers she has opened for). The 2021 People interview does not seem to have much independent context (but does mention "co-writing credits on Lainey Wilson's song "LA" off her 2019 EP Redneck Hollywood"). The CMT Next Women of Country is reported on by The Tennessean in 2022, with quotes from Dasher, who is introduced as "With hair teased to the heavens and wearing a trademark polyester bell-bottomed pantsuit, Aug. 31 showcase performer Hannah Dasher is the ideal person to speak about what CMT's Next Women of Country program means...". A 2020 Rolling Stone list of Country Music Picks for the Week of November 23rd includes her "Girls Call the Shots" song; Guitar.com in 2022 notes "In the past year, Fender have features [sic] countless female Player Plus artists on it’s [sic] TikTok account, such as Country musician Hannah Dasher...". I think this article would benefit from some clean up for tone/puffery and to remove social media and blog references, but there appears to be some support for WP:BASIC notability based on her TikTok and music career. Beccaynr (talk) 15:38, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom's points. BLP, fails GNG and BIO.  // Timothy :: talk  12:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep as the reliable sources coverage identified by Beccaynr show a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:03, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete As always I admire the work done by Beccaynr in analyzing sources. However, I have a different assessment of the sources. I don't think that her "awards" are significant. The kind of "next women" thing is at best promotional, and has little factual value. Who knows how they pick the ten but I'd bet money that there's nothing scientific about it. The People magazine is a puff piece (of course). The other sources, American Songwriter, Country Swag -- the former article could possibly be considered reliable and significant. The latter, again, is mainly promotional. Other than that I get her name-checked but that's about it. As far as I can tell, she hasn't charted on a national chart. (Someone please let me know if I got that wrong - I don't know much anything about country music charting.) Lamona (talk) 03:48, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - I am also concerned about the promotional sources, and 's assessment helps clarify my view that the interviews, 2021 CMT 'Ten Women Who Are on the Verge of Breakout Success' recognition, and limited secondary coverage of her music is not enough to support WP:BASIC notability - my !vote is weak because there is some coverage, but we do not yet seem to have sufficient independent secondary coverage to support WP:CREATIVE or WP:MUSICBIO notability. Beccaynr (talk) 04:17, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - The Grand Old Opry in Nashville lists her as one of their artists. — Maile (talk) 22:52, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Due to the source analysis by Lamona and Beccaynr. MrsSnoozyTurtle 12:04, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Per Lamona's analysis of the referencing. Best, GPL93 (talk) 12:19, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


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