Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hans-Babo von Rohr


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. No actionable consensus has yet clearly formed, and I do not believe it is likely to with additional relists. KaisaL (talk) 02:48, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Hans-Babo von Rohr

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Does not meet GNG; while the subject received the Knight's Cross, Google books search does not produce meaningful results. K.e.coffman (talk) 08:05, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: that remains to be seen. As a recipient of the Knight's Cross, he meets WP:SOLDIER, and while that does not trump WP:GNG, it should be accepted as a guide on whether it will meet GNG if sufficient effort is made to locate reliable sources. Certainly there are several standard references on the Knight's Cross that must mention this man and his award, the date it was received and what role he was performing when awarded it. Google Books searches are a very blunt instrument, and I would not delete an article on that basis alone, particularly as there are sources that mention him and the award. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:39, 13 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Nom's comment. The subject does not meet GNG; Google book search results bring up hits to non-RS Franz Kurowski and Otto Weidinger.


 * Separately, as was suggested on my Talk page, I am including a 2015 version of the article, before I edited it; however, it does not appear to look much different.


 * While the Knight's Cross was a prestigious award, it was not the highest grade (there ware Oak Leaves, Swords, Diamonds, etc). Moreover, the GNG still needs to be met, through multiple verifiable independent, reliable sources. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:12, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Even if your assessment of the reliability of the sources in your Google Books search was accepted, have you checked the German Encyclopedia of Biography? Subjects are also more likely to have information available in their native language, and Google Books is a blunt instrument with English-speaking subjects, let alone non-English-speaking ones. Not enough effort has been demonstrated to justify deleting this article. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:06, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the suggestion re: Neue Deutsche Biographie, which I checked. There is no entry in the encyclopedia. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:02, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:07, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. North America1000 03:07, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 03:07, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. North America1000 03:07, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:32, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Not sure if you have already, but I have notified the author of the article, DocYako, that the article is being discussed at AfD. I would encourage you to do this for your other AfDs, too, if the article creator is currently active and if you haven't already done so. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 13:06, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
 * When I first created the article I thought that it met the basic guidelines of notability as he was a Knight's Cross recipient and the Knight's Cross was a high decoration for valour during World War II. I you want to delete it then be prepared to delete other entries about American and British servicemen who were also awarded decorations with less cites/references. DocYako (talk) 23:27, 26 June 2016
 * Nom's comment: Sure, if the articles on Allied servicemen do not meet WP:GNG by demonstrating that there's significant coverage, then I would not object if they were deleted. After all, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and should contain articles on notable subjects, as demonstrated by sources. A high award is not a gurantee of notability, as WP:Soldier states. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:49, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.