Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hans Gerling


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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 06:15, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Hans Gerling

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Cannot see a plausible claim of notability: the refs being in German I cannot read them but I suspect run of the mill coverage of a bloke doing a job. TheLongTone (talk) 14:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Merry Christmas! Baby miss  fortune 15:18, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Merry Christmas! Baby miss  fortune 15:18, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi TheLongTone, It's true that a lot of the coverage is in German, but Hans Gerling was important enough to be inducted into the Insurance Hall of Fame (just added - source in English). I think the biggest problem is that the huge company he ran - Gerling Konzern - doesn't have a wikipedia page in English. I'll create one based on the German (which has 19 sources and other authorities). Please don't delete my future attempt to create a Gerling Konzern page. I'll try to find English sources. Improvements and additional sources much appreciated. Thank you Xmastree75 (talk) 10:38, 15 December 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete: I don't see the subject's activity in the family insurance firm as providing biographical notability. While he does get mentioned relative to the Herstatt Bank in which he held the largest interest, it is notable more in its failure than anything else and the subject's role there is covered sufficiently in the article on the bank and also doesn't provide individual notability here. AllyD (talk) 19:46, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- no indications of notability or significance; significant RS coverage not found. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:44, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep -- substantial German entries as well as mentions in Fortune Magazine, NYT and WSJ in English. Why such a hurry to delete a new article on the CEO of a major company? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.86.59.98 (talk) 06:51, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:56, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep while many of the sources are in German, Hans Gerling is a notable business man in the early days of the Federal Republic of Germany. He has been subject of TV documentaries such as this, contemporary reviews about his legacy such as this - in which the authors consider him "king of the city of Cologne" in this days or this biography on the website of regional communities association in the section of important personalities in the state. On a separate note, I don't think I have ever seen an AfD nomination which is based on not being able to read sources and mere assumptions what may be written in them. This alone shows the arbitrary frivolity of the nomination. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 14:21, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


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