Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hans Maeder


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Consensus - particularly after a run of late keep !votes - is that the sources are sufficient to demonstrate notability by way of coverage in reliable sources. Mkativerata (talk) 21:00, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Hans Maeder

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This article has no inline citations. What sources there are include a pdf with a casual reference to the man. The Stockbridge School website is too closely connected to be considered reliable. That leaves his obituary, the man died what a surprise. A google archive search provides even more obscure cites. None of his storied background is confirmable. So what exactly is he notable for except for founding a small boarding school that is most notable for having Arlo Guthrie and Chevy Chase as alums. Wlmg (talk) 19:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. A bylined news obit in The New York Times is usually a gold-standard indicator of notability. He's also discussed in several dozen books (in English and German) listed at Google Books, including a biographical entry in Biographical dictionary of modern American educators. Article could stand some editing but this is not a delete candidate.--Arxiloxos (talk) 19:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Odd coincidence -- if nothing else -- that this editor's next action regarding the item is a nomination for deletion. New York Times' editors choose their obituary roster based on notability. They are highly practiced in these decisions and carefully winnowed based on their ability. I may have "created" the Maeder Wikipedia article, which apparently has link to obit. I can  certainly "accept" whatever "consensus" on this question that may here emerge. Calamitybrook (talk) 00:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC) Definitive view, in this regard, would be unavailable. Deletion should perhaps be considered on its merits, rather than motivation of nominating editors. Calamitybrook (talk) 01:13, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge into Stockbridge School. Most of the Google Books references and much of the NYT obit are about the school, not about Maeder, who doesn't seem to be independently notable. Jimmy Pitt   talk  19:54, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Then the article needs a lot of work starting with getting his birth date correct.Wlmg (talk) 20:00, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge into Stockbridge School. Otherwise WP:NN.  SharedPlanetType (talk) 20:46, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Poor quality alone is not sufficient justification for deletion. If merge is desirable, put up some merge tags. WP:AFD is unnecessarily aggressive. --Kvng (talk) 20:48, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't care. Please note that editor here nominating this article for deletion, was pointedly challenged by me, recently, regarding factual content of his edits (which currently stand) of article in question, which I suppose I "created."
 * Comment The editor is introducing controversy about the Stockbridge School article that took place on a talk page. It belongs there. WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND Wlmg (talk) 00:45, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * But is "Wlmg" migrating "controversy" to this page by making nomination for deletion?? Is not a wildly unreasonable theory. I've no real opinion.
 * Comment Again not here, if the editor insists they can take it over here WP:DISPUTE Wlmg (talk) 01:31, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * To note relevant circumstances leading to a "nomination for deletion" constitutes neither a dispute nor a controversy. Rather, is merely illuminating. Calamitybrook (talk) 19:08, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. When I first saw this AfD and the article, I thought that it probably should be merged into Stockbridge School, because that is the main thing he is known for. However, he seems to be notable (there's plenty of coverage per WP:GNG), and Stockbridge School is not the only thing he ever did (he wrote at least one book, he seems to be well-regarded for his role as an education maverick, and I found his name in the papers of Roy Wilkins at the NAACP), so I think a stand-alone bio is appropriate. --Orlady (talk) 01:27, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  —Orlady (talk) 17:00, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Arxiloxos; other major paper obits & coverage, more than enough for a decent article.John Z (talk) 05:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. The NYT obit and biographical dictionary entry make for a clear pass of WP:GNG. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.