Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hanuszka


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Hanuszka

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Unable to find a single review from an independent reliable source (there is one from the channel that aired the film). IMDB cites no reviews or awards. Searching in Google finds nothing more than mentions of viewing schedules with the occasional plot snippet from press release summaries. I originally tagged this article three months ago hoping that there would be some sources identified. But unfortunately there aren't.  Bongo  matic  05:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Channel that aired the movie is independent of the movie, they're not the production company or anything. Wily D 12:46, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you ever opined that an article should be deleted? Bongo  matic  23:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, he has :)  The Nordic Goddess Kristen  Worship her 02:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Web search indicates that the film was screened at multiple film festivals and also won second prize at one of the festivals. There is lack of significant critical coverage which bothers me a little. But other than that, notable film. Leave  Sleaves  17:19, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Which criterion on criteria in WP:FILM does it satisfy? Bongo  matic  23:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it probably won't pass standard requirements under WP:NF, but being screened at multiple film festivals and receiving an award in one of these festivals definitely elevates the film past the inclusion criteria to my belief. Plus there is a chance of existence of non-electronic and non-English sources which would only increase its notability. Leave  Sleaves  15:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:39, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. That "Regional Jewish organizations in the United States regularly host screening of the film" would seem to indicate notability to that part of society. If it wasn't notable to them, why would they do so? There is Xavier University:"Xavier hosts special screening of Hanuszka as part of Israel's 60th anniversary celebration", The Holocaust Center of Northern California, Vancouver Jewish Film Festival, The Jewish Channel, The Jewish News Weekly, San Francisco Jewish Film Festival, San Francisco Bay Guardian, Warsaw Jewish Film Festival, and others. I think it is reasonable to believe that the reviews the nom wishes may be available in Polish or Israeli sources.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. On occasion, the notability of article subjects should be evaluated in consideration of the status of WP:N as a guideline, not a policy. Being careful to avoid WP:ILIKEIT arguments, we should still consider whether there is clear and convincing evidence of notability within the subject's cultural milieu.  Such notability is shown for "Hanuszka" by MichaelQSchmidt's argument and references: the extensive viewing of this film when it is shown by Jewish organizations confers a certain notability upon it.  Moreover, searches for coverage of a subject in third-party RS should also reflect the subject's cultural context.  As MichaelQSchmidt notes, a source search appropriate for this particular film would require that Polish or Hebrew sources be sought.  Being an irremediably anglophone editor :) and not having access to the necessary translation software, I cannot conduct the search myself.  However, we should not conclude that coverage of the film in WP:RS meeting WP:GNG doesn't exist until editors fluent in these languages have attempted to find sources.  While WP:V does deprecate foreign-language sources, they are acceptable when irreplaceable by sources written in English.  The Nordic Goddess Kristen  Worship her  03:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - two preceding have summed it up well. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


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