Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Happiest Minds


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Almost unanimously - consensus is that the cited coverage is of a routine nature. Although analyst reports are mentioned as possible sources in WP:NCORP, that guideline also excludes "standard notices, brief announcements, and routine coverage", so excluding routine analyst reports is guideline-compliant.  Sandstein  18:54, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Happiest Minds

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Generic IT shop. Fails WP:NCORP, WP:SIRS, WP:CORPDEPTH, WP:ORGIND.  scope_creep Talk  09:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. AllyD (talk) 09:39, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. AllyD (talk) 09:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:45, 22 April 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: An article with a history of WP:SPA additions, links to IPO documents, etc. Searches do find coverage of their IPO (e.g. and this interview-based article) and subsequent restructuring, as well as some prior coverage of a lawsuit. Certainly enough to verify this as a company going about its business, but does it demonstrate encyclopaedic notability? AllyD (talk) 08:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:09, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: aside from WP:NCORP concerns, I'm not seeing WP:42 satisfied. The bibliography consists entirely of press releases (not independent) and other coverage of their own operations (neither independent nor reliable).    SITH   (talk)   01:38, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. From Notability (organizations and companies) (my bolding): "There has been considerable discussion over time whether publicly traded corporations, or at least publicly traded corporations listed on major stock exchanges such as the NYSE and other comparable international stock exchanges, are inherently notable. Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in this (or any other) case. However, sufficient independent sources almost always exist for such companies, so that notability can be established using the primary criterion discussed above. Examples of such sources include independent press coverage and analyst reports." Analyst reports   The analyst report notes in the "Key risk & concerns" section: "Adverse effects of the novel Coronavirus remain uncertain and could be severe. The outbreak of any other severe communicable disease could have a potential impact on business, financial condition and results of operations. The company’s revenues are highly dependent on a limited number of industry verticals. Any decline in demand for outsourced services in these industry verticals could reduce revenues and materially adversely affect business, financial conditions and results of operations. HMT does not have long-term commitments with customers. Customers may terminate contracts before completion, negotiate adverse terms of the contract or choose not to renew contracts, which could materially adversely affect business, financial condition and results of operations."  The article notes: "Analysts are mixed on the issue, with a few recommending it for risk-taking investors. “The pricing of the issue is very high. On a long-term basis, the stock may not be very attractive. But given the strong growth shown by the company in FY20, and huge demand for midcap and smallcap IT stocks these days, risk-taking investors can consider the issue for a short-to-mid term basis,” said Vinod Nair of Geojit Financial Services. Astha Jain of Hem Securities said the company is bringing the issue at post-issue PE of 12 times on an annualised Q1FY21 EPS basis."  The page lists analyst reports from Nirmal Bang, Ashika Research, Prabhudas Lilladhar, Ventura, and HDFC securities.  The page lists two reports: "Happiest Minds- Digital Bank Transformation" written by Andy Efstathiou and published on 7 October 2019 and "Happiest Minds - Digital Transformation Case Studies" written by Dominique Raviart and published on 23 December 2015. There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Happiest Minds to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 07:33, 10 May 2021 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Comment The company is listed and I expected it to be kept. I also expected that it would receive special consideration, along with many other American company articles and American CEO's articles, that I notice are being kept at AFD, in the last few weeks, indicating some kind of WP:BIAS, as there seems to be a trend, even though they are entirely common and non-notable. It is strange that while there are probably at least 4000 tier 1 and tier 2 IT companies in the US, this entirely unremarkable IT shop will be kept. The whole thing is a subversion of notability, as the list above is another collection of routine coverage that completely ignores WP:NCORP, like it doesn't exist, and makes a mockery of notability and the five pillars. I'll see what Arbcom says about it.   scope_creep Talk  10:42, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, without prejudice against restoration to draft. Run-of-the-mill company in its run-of-the-mill sector. BD2412  T 06:17, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete As per BD2412. MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:31, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: Happiest Minds passes Notability (organizations and companies) through receiving substantial coverage in analyst reports that provide critical analysis of the company's performance. Analyst reports are not "routine" coverage that cannot be used to establish notability because WP:NCORP specifically lists analyst reports as sources that can be used to establish notability. "Run-of-the-mill company in its run-of-the-mill sector" is not a policy-based rationale for deletion when the company has received significant coverage in reliable sources. The nominator wrote "I also expected that it would receive special consideration, along with many other American company articles and American CEO's articles, that I notice are being kept at AFD, in the last few weeks, indicating some kind of WP:BIAS, as there seems to be a trend, even though they are entirely common and non-notable." Regarding the comment about WP:BIAS, which redirects to Systemic bias, Happiest Minds is not an American company. It is a company headquartered in Bangalore, Karnataka, India. Cunard (talk) 02:08, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


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