Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harald Schmautz


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The result was   delete as evidence of notability was not provided in the discussion.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 11:44, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Harald Schmautz

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The German version of this article was deleted already. It is perfectly obvious that this is a vanity article without any encyclopaedic relevance whatsoever. Tiritomba (talk) 20:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep: Several External links, suggesting the page could have a future. SE7 T alk/C ontribs 21:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Not a strong keep argument at all. Abductive  (reasoning) 23:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. No particular claim of notability, and I could not find any secondary sources on him. Abductive  (reasoning) 23:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. He was elected to the European Parliament, and he has headed an organization that has received some reportage elsewhere. I did find a couple of tiny snippets on Google Books: what appears to be a very short thing by him titled "Mit dem Spaltpilz soll der zweite Frühling kommen" appears in a 1981 collection of views (and is also listed here); unless there are 2 political writers named Harald Schmautz, something by him is a reading excerpt in a textbook for students of German; and some statement of political outrage by him concerning the need to accept nature's boundaries was published in the magazine of the European Commission. So, not completely without independently published and outside sources. But very little material to work with; possibly someone with more access to or knowledge of German-language newspaper archives can find more. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:Politician. MEPs are intrinsically notable: 1. Politicians who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members and former members of a national, state or provincial legislature and judges. walk  victor falktalk 00:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. He should be better known in Germany and the Germans deleted his entry in 2008 already. The overwhelming majority of his mentionings are either self-referential or complimentary. Yngvadottir, where did you find the information that he is, or used to be, an MEP? His own website http://haraldatwork.tripod.com/index_en.html doesn't mention it. (The man is so irrelevant that he has a Tripod-page as his professional web presence.) Google Book Search delivers one hit for "Harald Schmautz", but somehow the result is not about him. It seems that all the external sources about him which are NOT self-referential or complimentary, are letters to the editor by him or he is mentioned as the contact for some monarchist organization. The only genuine reference is 29 yars old. -- Skowronek The Lark (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC).
 * I couldn't find the MEP ref; I probably failed to notice an ellipsis in a Google result, so I am striking that. I did notice that the trail is cold, but notability doesn't have an expiration date; if he made a big enough splash a decade or two ago it wouldn't matter if the focus has moved off him. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Given that this is a BLP, the lack of verifiable information requires deletion. If sources are provided at a later date, the article can be recreated. Abductive  (reasoning) 20:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nom and per Skowronek The Lark. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 01:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
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