Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hardcore (subculture)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Jayjg (talk) 02:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Hardcore (subculture)

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Multiple issues with this page, the most glaring of them being that it consists entirely of Original Research, and cites no reliable sources. The tone of the article is also not appropriate for an encyclopedia article. Unless the text is cleaned up to Wikipedia standards and the other issues are rectified, it should be deleted. TheLetterM (talk) 17:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. An article being full of WP:OR and not having WP:RS is not a reason for deletion. Right now I'm leaning towards a merge with Hardline (subculture) or straight edge.   TheWeak Willed   (T * G) 20:34, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Delete Utter nonsense. It's impossible to tell what this article is actually supposed to be about. Is it about people hardcore punk? Hardcore dance music? Something the creator made up? The first two would be likely candidates if you wanted to make a page on a "hardcore subculture" in relation to music, but the article sure isn't about either of them, and it seems most likely to be the latter. WesleyDodds (talk) 13:55, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Redirect to hardcore. This article is total garbage. I was about to clean it up, but then I realized that when I deleted all the junk, there would literally be almost nothing left on the page.Spylab (talk) 14:19, 20 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete It seems that there is a group of youth actually called "hardcore kids", see
 * From journal "Symbolic interaction" "militant vegans, straight- edge, hardcore kids, and when they graduated and left college, they gave it all up. ... However, his awareness that these individuals were some of the most “militant” or “hardcore” kids hints at how the extreme situation might op- erate in a person's life"
 * individual quoted in a book about straightedge "There were a lot of, like, punks, and straightedge kids, and hardcore kids, and skinheads, and it was all kind of a big scene"
 * Unfortunately, a) I don't see sources that actually study this group of youth b) the article in its current state in unsalvageable and c) stubbing won't work because people will just keep adding crap. So, please burn it down to the ground and let someone write a new article from good sources like books and articles that deal with youth subcultures. --Enric Naval (talk) 14:35, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Delete Poorly written and inaccurate. Does not appear to be fixable.--Rebel1916 (talk) 16:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Those passages seem to refer to hardcore punk. "Straightedge" is a sub-subculture of hardcore punk that eschews drink and drugs. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 18:28, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete while the topic is likely notable and a good article could be written, there is nothing here to salvage RadioFan (talk) 16:17, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. A combo of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:04, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Hardcore punk is a far superior treatment of this same topic. Yilloslime T C  20:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unverified, poorly written, entirely unclear what its topic is--it actually invites a redirect to Hxc, which is a redirect to Hardcore punk. Drmies (talk) 05:46, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.