Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haredi education


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Salvageable material has already been merged elsewhere. --MelanieN (talk) 00:42, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Haredi education

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This article does not appear to have enough content to warrant its own article. It may make sense to include the subject as a paragraph in Haredi Judaism and/or Jewish education. (WP:Fork). Addionally, the article seems like a stitch up of some original research on the relevance of international law on Haredi Ed. & a coatrack of activist activities (like Yaffed). I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 18:00, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete with no redirect: As per WP:TNT, (TNT tipping point argument): "if the article's content is useless... but the title might be useful, then delete the content to help encourage a new article.... [as] people tend to be more inclined to fill red links." I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 10:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Delete. Per I.am.a.qwerty. In addition look at the SPA creator of the article. Some of the info could be included in another article as nominator pointed out.Caseeart (talk) 00:52, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I de-prodded this with the concern that its deletion might be controversial. I take no stance one way or the other. Bearian (talk) 20:16, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Delete: I agree that what is relevant could be included in other articles, as noted above. However, I note that the materials for US and Canada for example are only allegations or assertions, not what was the outcome. Enthusiast (talk) 23:39, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Weak delete The article as is, is best deleted. However, there are two points of interest here, and that is sex segregation and core subjects. These must be merged into other article before this article can be deleted. If the discussion will be closed as a delete, and the closing editor will want help in merging this information, please drop me a note before actually deleting. By the way, I think that with proper work this article could be improved into a small but independently interesting article. Debresser (talk) 17:58, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment: I have added the point on sex segregation in education to Haredi Judaism and Jewish education, as suggested by you. Enthusiast (talk) 23:24, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment - @Debresser, if you are willing to do the re-write, I am fine with temporarily holding off the deletion and will ask the voting editors can re-assess the article once you feel it can pass the basic threshold for WP. Haredi education is certainly an important topic, but the current article (in its current state) is worthy of WP:TNT. Wouldn't you agree? I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 09:39, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: 's merger made deletion untenable (see WP:MAD). Relisted to permit further discussion on the best path forward. T. Canens (talk) 22:47, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 22:47, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I agreed that this article should be deleted. The article is more about orthodox Jewish education bashing than education itself. I have merged the part about sex segregation in education, which is relevant and true. The rest consists of mere allegations and assertions by individuals or groups with their own agendas, without any indication of outcomes. In short it was not my intention to "make deletion untenable". Enthusiast (talk) 23:02, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Just an idea for any editor who is interested in the topic but doesn't feel up to fixing the article, maybe it is time to create a List of Haredi educational institutions... I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 09:16, 24 August 2015 (UTC)


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