Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harriet Wolman


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The result was redirected to Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario candidates, 1985 Ontario provincial election. Dipankan ( Have a chat? ) 11:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Harriet Wolman

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Minor Ontario politician. Was a school trustee and a failed provincial PC candidate. Not notable enough for standalone article. This article was at one time redirected to a candidate page but was changed for some unknown reason. Recommend redirect back to Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario candidates, 1985 Ontario provincial election. Suttungr (talk) 22:11, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect and speedily close the Afd. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 22:38, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:58, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:59, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Just for the record, the article was originally created as a redirect to the candidate list, and was then expanded into a real article just a day or two later by the same editor who created the original redirect — so it really isn't eligible for speedy redirection, because the conversion from a redirect into a real article was entirely explicable and was done by the same person who created the redirect in the first place (and it's always acceptable to convert a redirect into a real article as long as that article follows Wikipedia standards and practices; nowhere in Wikipedia rules is it written that once created a redirect must always remain a redirect in perpetuity.) That said, I agree that by contemporary standards she isn't notable enough for a standalone article — even though citations are provided, the highest level of office she's actually held is as a trustee on a local school board, which is not consistent with our current standards of notability for politicians. As is so often the case, the real issue here is the gap between Wikipedia standards as they stood in 2006 and Wikipedia standards as they exist in 2012, rather than a deliberate attempt to undermine Wikipedia. Redirect per nom, but give it the full seven days for discussion and don't speedy it. Bearcat (talk) 23:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Redirect seems indicated here. EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 11:39, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect as above. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:42, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect as above. --Me-123567-Me (talk) 21:54, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: There isn't much recent coverage of her, but in the late 70s through the mid 80s, there is a lot of coverage of her in the Globe and Mail archives. She is also the author of Ontario's 1982 "Youth Employment Strategy Study" which is covered in the Globe and Mail and quoted in academic texts. She is mentioned in the books: Schooling for Life: Community Education and Social Enterprise and The School guidance worker, Volume 38. She's also a member of the Immigration and Refugee Board which has given her a more recent media mentions, . West Eddy (talk) 22:48, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
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