Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harry Horowitz


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Per Alf.laylah.wa.laylah's comments, a merge doesn't appear to be appropriate. Consensus is to keep the article/content so further merge discussion can happen on the talk page. v/r - TP 03:10, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Harry Horowitz

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Falls into the WP:Notability crime section (A person who is notable only for being the victim of or committing a crime or crimes should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article) Cox wasan (talk) 17:50, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  — &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 17:58, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  — &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 17:58, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

keep &mdash; the sources in the article alone establish notability. this fellow is not known only for committing a crime. he was a gang leader and was written about by one of the foremost criminologists of the 20th centure. &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 18:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. That guideline is really referring to WP:ONEEVENT. It's not intended to block all articles about criminals. Horowitz was a notorious gang leader who was known for his many crimes over an extended period of time. Pburka (talk) 18:01, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Lenox Avenue Gang. His biography section has nothing that's outside his gang life. The two articles would be better off together. Ratibgreat (talk) 19:49, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:47, 18 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - See this and read the articles about this individual. Topic is notable per notability guidelines. Northamerica1000 (talk) 04:48, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge - to Lenox Avenue Gang as per Ratibgreat's comment. Off2riorob (talk) 11:48, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * comment&mdash; after reading a bunch of old nyt articles, i'm not convinced that he was actually a leader of the lenox avenue gang. none of the stories published between 1912 and his execution in 1914 mention this connection, and there's not much about him in material on the lenox avenue gang from contemporary nyt stories.  only herbert asbury seems to think he was in it.  this is one reason i think a merge would be inappropriate.  also, i've rewritten the entire article to emphasize what seems to be the real source of his notariety.  maybe you all could take a look at it to see why i think a merge wouldn't be the best solution? &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 14:22, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.