Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harvard Summit for Young Leaders in China


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The result was no consensus. North America1000 01:08, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Harvard Summit for Young Leaders in China

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Are we sure that this article meets notability guidelines? (My feeling is that this fails citation and NPOV guidelines.) Egroeg5 (talk) 23:19, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete The article reads more like a promotional blurb than anything.TH1980 (talk) 04:21, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Cunard (talk) 08:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes: "Once at Harvard, in the fall of 2005, Meijie figured out what she wanted to do. She would try to make liberal education’s ideal of well-rounded self-fulfillment “more real in China.” She plunged into conceiving a summer exchange program run by and for students. Meijie named it the Harvard Summit for Young Leaders in China, or Hsylc — pronounced “H-silk,” evoking the historic trading route." The article further notes, "As for the HSYLC students’ plans for the future, Meijie’s summit meeting had not triggered a stampede to apply to American colleges (where all but the wealthy must hope for full or generous scholarships). Interest in Harvard certainly was high, yet at the same time Hsylc sent a very different message that worked against reflexive Chinese competitive fervor." The article discusses Hsylyc (acronym for Harvard Summit for Young Leaders in China) extensively.  The article notes: "The Harvard Summit for Young Leaders in China, being held at the high school affiliated to Renmin University of China in Beijing from August 15 to 23, was set up by The Harvard College Association for US-China Relations which aims to strengthen the relationship between China and United States through youth activities.  The summit will feature seminars and discussion forums to nurture the global leadership skills and civic awareness of Chinese students.  It is supported by the Chinese Ministry of Education and funded by the Goldman Sachs Foundation."  The article notes: "The 10th Harvard Summit for Young Leaders in China (HSYLC) is currently taking place in Hangzhou for the first time before the G20 summit in September. A total of 505 high school students began this year's program in Hangzhou by being sorted into different houses in ceremony modeled after Harvard University's 12-house system. ...  HSYLC is the flagship program of the Harvard College Association for US-China Relations. The program first came to China in 2006, when the inaugural Chinese summit was held in Shanghai. It is now Harvard's largest-scale program in Asia. A number of celebrities have participated in HSYLC as guest speakers, such as Jack Ma, Lee Kai-fu and Yao Ming."  The article discusses what happened at the the 10th Harvard University China-US Student Leadership Summit (HSYLC). There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Harvard Summit for Young Leaders in China to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 08:29, 19 June 2021 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * The article in several places has a promotional tone. This can be addressed through normal editing rather than deletion per Editing policy. Cunard (talk) 08:29, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed or reworded all of the promotional content. The article now has a neutral tone. Cunard (talk) 08:38, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

<ul><li>Comment: I am saving the article's sources and external links to this AfD so they are preserved (I have not done an evaluation of all of these sources but many have titles that indicate they provide significant coverage of the subject):<ol> <li>New York Times: <https://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01China.t.html?pagewanted=1&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/Organizations/I/Ivy%20League&_r=1> 2007, April 1</li> Ron Tian News <http://rt.xaonline.gov.cn/xw/show.asp?id=658> 2007, March 14 <li>Sohu News <http://sh.sohu.com/20070806/n251434963.shtml> 2007, Aug. 6</li> <li>致意HSYLC(哈佛大学中美中学生领袖峰会) https://web.archive.org/web/20110708144338/http://zx.china-b.com/hfdx/zixun_77124.html</li> <li>中美学生领袖峰会今年将继续举行 http://www.shjubao.cn/eastday/edu/jyxw/u1a2739703.html</li> <li>中美优秀学生领袖沪上聚首交流互动 http://old.jfdaily.com/gb/jfxww/xlbk/xwcb/node27909/node27910/userobject1ai1749238.html</li> <li>学生粉丝用思想"叫板"易中天 http://edu.people.com.cn/GB/6079350.html</li> <li>中美学生领袖峰会端出明日行动计划 http://edu.chinanews.cn/edu/xyztc/news/2007/08-13/1000644.shtml</li> <li>中美学生领袖峰会易中天首讲 学生领袖要读诸子 http://edu.chinanews.cn/edu/xyztc/news/2007/08-07/996567.shtml</li> <li>哈佛学生峰会 “明日行动计划” 进入决赛 https://web.archive.org/web/20080113042253/http://web.xwwb.com/wbnews.php?db=2</li> <li>未来精英们：大声说出你们的梦想 https://web.archive.org/web/20081205055909/http://www.china-cbn.com/s/n/000005/20070830/000000077351.shtml</li> <li>中美学生领袖峰会第一课学习"失败" 哈佛教授 http://edu.qq.com/a/20060808/000317.htm</li> <li>李开复马云激情对碰话成功http://news.chinamedia.com.cn/news/news_view_1929.htm</li> <li>Morning News (新闻晨报) “200 Harvard student leaders at the US-China Summit proposed a brilliant challenge for students, namely ‘Challenge’ Yi Zhongtian" 2007, Aug. 7</li> <li>Chinese Education News Online (中国教育新闻网) “Harvard student leaders and student participants at US-China Summit have a lively debate with Yi Zhongtian” 2007, Aug. 7</li> <li>China News Website (中新网) and Youth Newspaper (青年报) “Yi Zhongtian, the keynote speaker at HSYLC, emphasizes that student representatives should be well-read” 2007, Aug. 6</li> <li>Morning News (新闻晨报) “Outstanding Chinese and American student leaders interact in Shanghai” 2007, Aug. 6</li> <li>eNews Exchange Medium (文新传媒) “China and the United States strengthen exchange at 2007 student leaders summit opening” 2007, Aug. 6 Youth Newspaper “Harvard leaders to train and teach high school students” 2007, Aug. 6</li></ol>Cunard (talk) 08:29, 19 June 2021 (UTC)</li></ul> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per Cunard. VocalIndia (talk) 16:45, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:14, 21 June 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:27, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Sure, there is some coverage in newspaper sources when the event has taken place in the past, but little in the way of long-lasting significance. Polyamorph (talk) 11:33, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: The sources include a New York Times profile published in 2007 and coverage in the South China Morning Post in 2009, People's Daily in 2016, and The Time Weekly in 2020. This is sustained significant coverage over more than a decade about the subject. Cunard (talk) 09:37, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


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