Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harvinder Singh (IAS officer)


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Harvinder Singh (IAS officer)

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India has a fascination with "IAS" and it's a great personal achievement, but it's still just a civil service job, best I can tell. You pass an exam, you get posted and you get shuffled around. You do not actually set policies. So, WP:NPOL is out the window.

For a civil servant to be notable, I would think they would have to be recognised at the national level for their civil service, with awards comparable to the British knighthood. Or they would have to be known for some major bureaucratic reform. Or if they were at least at the secretarial level in ministries, we could imagine that they're probably notable. The subject of this article is none of those things. There are 800 districts in India and 3500 IAS officers, which makes our subject a sub-district level civil servant who's been shuffled a few times.

So, let's look at the sources for evidence of WP:GNG. The first one is a list of civil servants which he's in because he's a civil servant. The second one says "rank", "marksheet" (no joke), educational qualification and more, and takes you to a photo montage. The third one says that, a son of a truck driver whose hand was damaged in a childhood accident has become an IAS officer. But it also says he's a great archer who's got a bronze for India in Tokyo Paralympics. But wait, we already have an article on the bronze medal winner from Tokyo Paralymics at Harvinder Singh (archer). One of the sources there is this, which says, the Paralympian's legs stopped working properly in childhood because of a botched dengue treatment. It talks about his work and study which do not match this story. The pictures from this don't match the picture at Harvinder Singh (archer). Source #4 again repeats that Singh hurt his hand in childhood and worked very hard despite repeated failures to finally pass the IAS exam. Working hard and landing a cushy job makes for a human interest story; those stories don't count for notability. The last three sources are about him getting transferred from district to district. It is routine filler. Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:49, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:49, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  04:26, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. A mid-level administrator is not notable for just that position. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:15, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: His was one of 37 positions shifted, telling me he's not very notable. Appears to be a gov't functionary only. Oaktree b (talk) 15:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: The rationale behind creating this biographical article stems from the subject's unique and widely recognized journey to India's top competitive exam, culminating in prominent coverage by national and regional newspapers. As the founder of WikiProject Chenab Valley, which encompasses the Chenab Valley region, I am particularly attuned to Doda district, where the subject was recently appointed District Magistrate. This role, overseeing a population of over 450,000 people, further enhances their significance. Additionally, I endorse the notion of considering the article's adherence to WP:THREE, which, while not an official notability guideline, provides a valuable framework for evaluating notable articles.

The subject's distinction from other officers lies in the independent media attention he have garnered from reputable publications like News 18, Times Now, Jansatta and more. This external validation strengthens their claim to notability. I welcome the observations and discussions of fellow editors to maintain Wikipedia's credibility and reach a consensus on this matter.  ❯❯❯  Chunky aka Al Kashmiri   (✍️) 14:14, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Would that be the same news18 source that in my analysis above I said says Singh won bronze for India in the Tokyo Paralympics? Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * this one  ❯❯❯  Chunky aka Al Kashmiri   (✍️) 15:40, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The question was rhetorical. Did you read my analysis above? If you did, why was your reaction not to immediately remove it from the article and never talk about it again and why is it instead to mention it again, repeatedly, as one of your three best sources? Usedtobecool ☎️ 16:20, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * News18 talked about the same IAS officer, but I mentioned that there are more reputable and reliable sources, such as Early Times, a regional daily that covered the subject as a notable figure.  ❯❯❯  Chunky aka Al Kashmiri   (✍️) 09:31, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That's barely a paragraph, he goes to a school and chats with people isn't notable. Oaktree b (talk) 14:30, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: Being an IAS is not  inherently notable, they need to have significant coverage in multiple independent sources covering their achievements.   Ratnahastin  (talk) 14:08, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Every person that has an article dedicated to them needs significant coverage, in which the article is lacking. HarukaAmaranth  春香 21:55, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: has been blocked for evading previous blocks made for socking and spamming. Because of a few edits made by Teahouse hosts, this article is not an obvious case for WP:G5. Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:20, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


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