Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hassan Dyamwale


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. North America1000 02:26, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Hassan Dyamwale

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Not notable, single appearance on the Olympics. I wasn't able to find any good sources that proves subject's notability. Artem.G (talk) 10:57, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Artem.G (talk) 10:57, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

*Redirect to Athletics at the 1964 Summer Olympics – Men's 800 metres per WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE, WP:R and WP:CHEAP.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:01, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * KEEP per the un-earthing of the info, below. Thank you!  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:14, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Olympics and Africa. Shellwood (talk) 11:16, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete There are no good sources, and nothing to indicate notability. There is no reason to redirect from every name of some minor sportsperson who someone bothered to spend 3 minutes or less on creating an article about. Wikipedia is not a reliable source, and we have no grandfather clause. So we do not keep articles just because someone one created them, we need to show actual notability, and that is not done.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:54, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 166.149.176.61 (talk) 21:22, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm finding some hits under "Chabanga Dyamwale", including this article which I can't access beyond the paywall. I'm trying to verify they are in fact the same person, but it looks like later on in life Dyamwale may have become a Member of Parliament (see here). GPL93 (talk) 19:14, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep also found this article which also states that Dyamwale was the president of the Tanzania Football Federation, Deputy Minister of Tanzania's department of Land, Natural Resources and Tourism, and the Director of Sports Development in Tanzania as well as a Member of Parliament (so passes WP:NPOL). Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:26, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ,, and it looks like the guy passes WP:NPOL. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It is unclear if he passes WP:NPOL in my view, but I think this does give more weight to a keep argument. The reason I say I am unsure if he passes WP:NPOL is that the linked article (and nothing else I can find) confirm he was an MP in Tanzania; not just a deputy minister. While normally deputy ministers are MPs, they are not always and without something clearing stating he was an MP I think he fails WP:NPOL. TartarTorte 02:50, 5 May 2022 (UTC) He does pass WP:NPOL per GPL's findings below. TartarTorte 13:57, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I was able to find this obit which refers to him as a "retired Member of Parliament for Handeni". Best, GPL93 (talk) 13:11, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * , thank you for that. I've struck my comment and voted to keep per WP:NPOL. TartarTorte 13:57, 5 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep It seems that he has ample coverage in the English and Swahili media including a full-length obituary in a national newspaper (I am adding the information right now). EternalNomad (talk) 06:28, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:NPOL per the biography found by GPL93 stating that he was an MP, which qualifies under NPOL. TartarTorte 13:57, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. As a member of parliament and a deputy minister, qualifies for WP:NPOL. Jacona (talk) 01:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians. GPL93 (talk) 17:05, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: As an MP, passes WP:NPOL. Curbon7 (talk) 23:14, 7 May 2022 (UTC)


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