Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hassane Illiassou


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Niger at the 1992 Summer Olympics. Liz Read! Talk! 08:01, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Hassane Illiassou

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Unable to find SIGCOV from my searches and it does not seem that national records are covered under NATH.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 00:37, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics,  and Africa.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 00:37, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Niger at the 1992 Summer Olympics. Judging from the results, he competed at the Olympics, World Championships and World Indoor Championships on a quota, since every country in the world are allowed at least one participant. He would not have qualified without it and as such did not achieve good enough results to be recognized in sources. Geschichte (talk) 08:14, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, the subject is a Nigerien national record holder at the World Indoor Athletics Championships and he ran at the 1992 Olympics. Due to his presence in athletics at such a recent Olympics, the subject is deserving of a presumption of sources existing -- the reason why they aren't at this specific moment easily findable is because of a combination of the subject's name not scanning well (at newspapers.com he is more often listed as "Hassane Llliassou" for example) and also the difficulty of accessing contemporaneous news sources from his home country of Niger. A comprehensive effort to address these issues should be made before a deletion decision is made. --Habst (talk) 03:18, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect. The global community reached a solid consensus that no presumption of notability exists for any athletes, and that a presumption of coverage only exists from meeting specific NSPORT criteria if a piece of SIGCOV has already been identified. As we do not have the required citation here, there is no reasonable P&G-based reason to keep this article in mainspace.
 * JoelleJay (talk) 02:04, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @JoelleJay, thank you for replying. I completely agree with WP:SPORTBASIC -- I think that we should address these issues to find that piece of SIGCOV so that we can then work to keep the article. The guideline based reason to keep this article for now is WP:DEADLINE (linked from WP:NSPORT policy), which allots us time to find the required sources and is especially applicable in this case due to the reasons above (many variations of name, pre-Internet time period, country with primary non-English language). Based on, it appears we have a possible contact for Nigerien athletics, but another approach would be to look for Nigerien newspaper archives (Newspapers.com only mostly covers English-speaking papers). The word "should" is crucial here -- there is no WP:OBLIGATION to improve Wikipedia, but I think it would be best to look to improve contested articles before deletion, especially in cases where NATH is met. --Habst (talk) 02:57, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No, NSPORT does not allot time to find the SPORTCRIT #5 SIGCOV source; it is supposed to be in the article from the start. NATH is not met if that criterion is not satisfied. JoelleJay (talk) 03:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @JoelleJay, thank you for replying and clarifying the policy. If a SIGCOV is required to be in the article from the start even for NATH articles, then why not delete all of the following articles? These are just the track and field Olympians since 1952, and while many of them meet NATH none have non-database sources (there might be a few with non-web sources but you can see the vast majority of them do not, this would not be too hard to filter out).

Levan Sanadze Toivo Hyytiäinen Boris Tokarev (athlete) Fritz Schwab Erkki Kataja Ahmed Labidi Reino Hiltunen Leonid Bartenyev Sergio D'Asnasch Roy Sandstrom Edmund Turton (athlete) Jennifer Thompson (athlete) Sandra Valenti Pier Giorgio Cazzola Lyudmila Samotyosova Nicole Goullieux Anni Biechl Đorđe Majtan Michèle Demys Charles Asati Julius Sang Roger Lespagnard Martin Jellinghaus Dave Travis Joachim Kirst Angelo Sguazzero Reinhard Theimer Inge Bauer Clovis Morales Sue Golder Sherry Calvert Brenda Matthews Thomas Wessinghage Rita Kühne Horst-Rüdiger Schlöske Modupe Oshikoya Christina Heinich Tadeusz Ślusarski Frank Siebeck Max Klauß Olga Mineyeva Éva Ráduly-Zörgő Siegfried Schenke Rolf Bernhard Aleksandr Kornelyuk Bärbel Struppert Yevgeniy Gavrilenko Mario Pérez Saldívar Hans-Jürgen Bombach Leonid Lytvynenko Nikolay Kolesnikov (sprinter) Margherita Gargano Vera Anisimova Mariya Petkova Karl Fleschen María Elena Sarría Marcel Philippe (athlete) Piotr Bielczyk Dušan Janićijević (athlete) Vladimir Muravyov (athlete) Nikolay Sidorov Pavol Blažek Willi Sawall Mohamed Kedir Aliaksandr Trashchyla Othmane Belfaa Hildegard Körner Rufina Ubah Béla Bakosi Juha Tiainen Sunday Uti Conceição Geremias Antonio Corgos Roland Wieser Zofia Bielczyk Vasyl Arkhypenko Nunu Abashydze Aleksandras Antipovas Jutta Kirst Zakariah Barie Aleksandr Makarov (javelin thrower) Mariusz Klimczyk Brian Diemer Francesco Panetta Eddy Annys Mary O'Connor (runner) Aurora Cunha Lorna Griffin José Luíz Barbosa Lucio Serrani Julius Kariuki Vince O'Sullivan Agostino Ghesini Simon Baker (racewalker) Paola Moro Li Meisu Kazuhiro Mizoguchi Julius Korir Antonio Selvaggio Marie-France Loval Sigurður Einarsson (athlete) Junichi Usui Arto Härkönen Tony Sharpe Don Wright (athlete) Sejad Krdžalić Agapius Masong Michèle Chardonnet Pat Scammell Babacar Niang Emi Matsui Walter Ciofani Martial Fesselier Charles-Louis Seck Henry Amike Liu Yuhuang Hector Begeo Peter Rwamuhanda Ralf Salzmann William Motti Ahmed Musa Jouda Christina Sussiek Arjun Pandit (athlete) Silke Möller Sandie Richards Kirsten Emmelmann Mikhail Shchennikov Douglas Wakiihuri Silke-Beate Knoll Vladimir Krylov Tibor Gécsek Ronald Weigel Galina Malchugina Christine Wachtel Petra Felke Adewale Olukoju Christian Plaziat Yevgeniy Misyulya Grigoriy Yegorov Vyacheslav Ivanenko Kimmo Kinnunen Stefan Johansson (racewalker) Kathrin Weßel Jacqueline Hautenauve Thierry Toutain Sylvia Dethier Axel Noack Zhong Huandi Huang Zhihong Anelia Nuneva István Bagyula Ian Morris (athlete) Yasmina Azzizi-Kettab Leonid Voloshin Emmanuel Tuffour Dezső Szabó (athlete) Cayetano Cornet György Bakos Ulrike Sarvari Maite Zúñiga Alain Blondel Anne Piquereau Ľudmila Melicherová Javier García (pole vaulter) Ekaterini Koffa Vladimir Ovchinnikov (athlete) Olena Zhupiyeva-Vyazova Philippe Collet Zhao Youfeng Mauricio González (runner) Laurence Bily Karin Janke Chen Yanping Chen Zunrong Han Kulker Airat Bakare Andrea Thomas (German athlete) Mogens Guldberg Diana Yankey Philippe d'Encausse Attila Kovács (athlete) Akemi Matsuno Maia Azarashvili Patrick Delice Viktor Yevsyukov Mark Forsythe John Mwathiwa Gong Guohua Svetlana Buraga Nelson Boateng Thomas Kearns (athlete) Toma Tomov Kumi Araki Satu Pauri Oliver Acii Mirosław Chmara Kim Chul-kyun Markus Hacksteiner Frank Möller (athlete) Rex Wilson Liliana Allen Uta Rohländer Héctor Herrera (runner) Kōichi Morishita Nicoleta Grasu Silvia Costa (athlete) Phylis Smith Joel Lamela Patrick O'Connor (sprinter) Aliuska López Lyudmila Rogachova Valentina Yegorova Urszula Włodarczyk Margareta Keszeg Susana Feitor Maritza Martén Juliet Campbell (athlete) Vladimir Andreyev (racewalker) Jaime Jefferson Addis Abebe Viviane Dorsile Valeriy Spitsyn Dahlia Duhaney Rico Lieder Britta Bilač Vebjørn Rodal Robert Změlík Beatrice Utondu Nancy McLeón Benyounés Lahlou Oumar Loum Zhang Lianbiao Serge Hélan Linda Kisabaka Masayoshi Kan Masaki Morinaga Marieta Ilcu Sanna Kyllönen Igor Trandenkov Ebru Kavaklıoğlu Valentin Kononen Natalya Shikolenko Marina Azyabina Bárbara Hechavarría Tina Paulino Catherine Scott (athlete) Min Chunfeng Rita Ináncsi Neil de Silva Bettina Sabatini Stella Jongmans Nathalie Teppe Birgit Clarius Martha Tenorio Labros Papakostas Miguel Ángel Rodríguez (racewalker) Lucrécia Jardim Xu Demei Yiannis Zisimides Valentīna Gotovska Oleh Tverdokhlib Irina Mushayilova Ramilya Burangulova Michael Green (sprinter) Odalys Adams Dan Philibert Teresa Machado Nelė Žilinskienė María Luisa Servín Ángel Hernández (long jumper) Alvin Daniel Ricardo Vera Erick Keter Jonah Birir Toshihiko Iwasaki Liu Li (athlete) Zoltán Káldy Elmer Williams Mette Bergmann Ralf Sonn Katarzyna Radtke Nuno Fernandes Francisco Javier Benet Gustavo Adolfo Becker Eusebia Riquelme Abdelali Kasbane Daniel Cojocaru Milan Gombala William Koech Zoila Stewart David Kibet Pascale Grand Sonya Agbéssi Ouattara Lagazane Marino Drake Francis Ogola Piotr Piekarski (runner) Sébastien Thibault Patricia Foufoué Ziga Sieglinde Cadusch Beverly McDonald Tomáš Dvořák Svetlana Goncharenko Toshinari Takaoka Szymon Ziółkowski Olga Kotlyarova Bernardo Segura Konstadinos Gatsioudis Édson Ribeiro Sergey Makarov (javelin thrower) Omar Mena Kutre Dulecha Deji Aliu Hadi Soua'an Al-Somaily Ruslan Mashchenko Sergey Korepanov (racewalker) Gao Hongmiao Jón Arnar Magnússon Assefa Mezgebu Ludmila Formanová Delphine Combe Zhao Yongsheng Natallia Sazanovich Gregor Cankar Tatyana Chebykina Niki Xanthou Charity Opara Salah Hissou Sui Xinmei Raymond Hecht Ayelech Worku Lyudmila Galkina Anna Kozak Yelena Afanasyeva (athlete) Johanna Manninen Anna Biryukova Olga Kardopoltseva Lev Lobodin Tünde Vaszi Joseph Keter Salem Al-Ahmadi Mary Tombiri Ibou Faye Sergey Lyakhov Inna Lasovskaya Vyacheslav Shabunin Sylvie Mballa Éloundou Zuleima Araméndiz Debbie Parris-Thymes Sébastien Levicq Vita Styopina David Kimutai María del Carmen Díaz Mirtha Brock Khalid Boulami Denis Langlois Sonata Milušauskaitė Irina Khudoroshkina Vitaliy Sidorov (discus thrower) Peter Blank Zsolt Kürtösi Olga Rublyova Abdellah Béhar Modris Liepiņš Carlos Calado Serhiy Osovych Christian Nsiah Zuzana Hlavoňová Yelena Gulyayeva Mika Halvari Johan Botha (runner) Arnaud Malherbe Oleg Veretelnikov Charles Gitonga Andrei Tivontchik Holger Blume Aliaksandar Hlavatski Ren Ruiping Petya Pendareva Neil Winter Laurens Looije Osmar dos Santos Shakti Singh (athlete) Cleverson da Silva Dieudonné Kwizera Nikolay Matyukhin Yuliya Lyakhova Mikhail Vdovin Andrey Loginov Prodromos Katsantonis Savieri Ngidhi Patricia Rodríguez (athlete) Viktoriya Vershynina Olena Shekhovtsova Viktor Ginko Luís Feiteira Jim Svenøy David Maxwell Strang José Ramos (runner) Mikhail Khmelnitskiy Yu Guohui Alice Matějková Martin Lachkovics Andrey Ignatov Grace Birungi Daria Nauer Štefan Malík Melissa Straker Vasiliy Bubka Shigekazu Ōmori Tiia Hautala Mario Bonello Nada Kawar Imma Clopés Zsolt Czingler Evripides Demosthenous Frederick Onyancha Zlatka Georgieva Mireille Gigandet-Donders Sergey Alay Emmanuel Bangué Birgit Hamann Shadrack Hoff Dzimitry Hancharuk Philipp Huber Julio Luciano Jarosław Kotewicz Vasif Asadov Wagner Marseille Réda Benzine Dashdendev Makhashiri Lyudmila Filimonova Ana Amelia Menéndez Andrey Moruyev Gu Yan Volodymyr Kravchenko Olena Khlusovych Ellsworth Manuel Yang Siju Maksim Smetanin Aleksandr Jucov Viktor Sotnikov (athlete) Philip Dunn (racewalker) Daniel Caines Enefiok Udo-Obong Olesya Zykina Irina Khabarova Melissa Mueller Amy Mbacké Thiam Concepción Montaner Monica Iagăr Justin Anlezark Yuliya Sotnikova Alessandro Gandellini Roman Rasskazov Oleksy Lukashevych Tatyana Shikolenko Vyacheslav Voronin Yelena Yelesina Matthew Quinn (sprinter) Liu Hongyu Sergey Klyugin Vala Flosadóttir Elena Antoci Kirill Sosunov Claudia Dreher Denis Kapustin (athlete) Dai Tamesue Mame Tacko Diouf Patrick Dwyer (sprinter) Peter Burge (long jumper) Joseph Batangdon Igor Spasovkhodskiy Danil Burkenya Erica Johansson Pavel Gerasimov Tatyana Efimenko Sofiane Labidi Mardrea Hyman Aleksandr Porkhomovskiy Sarah Jamieson Alwyn Myburgh Gao Shuying Mohamed Ouaadi Robert Kronberg Yamna Oubouhou Yuan Yufang Salem Al-Yami Tatyana Gudkova Aïda Diop Tesfaye Tola Anzhela Balakhonova Mubarak Ata Mubarak Marina Kislova Zoltán Czukor Lyubov Perepelova Kadiatou Camara Karin Ertl Eliseo Martín Claudia Gesell Boris Gorban Gábor Máté (athlete) Hazel-Ann Regis Natalya Tsyganova Natalya Gorelova Ionuț Pungă Zuzanna Radecka Elvir Krehmić Wang Liping (racewalker) Julia Sakara Kim Soon-hyung Timo Aaltonen Piotr Balcerzak Aminata Diouf Nikolett Szabó James McIlroy (runner) Ato Stephens Feng Yun (hurdler) Irina Krakoviak-Tolstika Bahia Boussad Prodromos Korkizoglou Caroline Fournier Tanya Stefanova Satoshi Yanagisawa Yelena Belyakova Nikolay Atanasov Karen Shinkins Claudine Komgang Ryszard Pilarczyk Piotr Długosielski Jonathan Chimier Jean-Patrick Nduwimana Aki Heikkinen Paul McKee (athlete) Mauricio Díaz Martina de la Puente Elena Bobrovskaya Nobuyuki Sato Pedro Martins (racewalker) Chen Tien-wen Abebech Negussie Peter Korčok Militza Castro Kamal Boulahfane Miloslav Konopka Zamira Amirova Rafał Wójcik Mohamed Saïd El Wardi Oleksandr Yurkov Sabine Fischer Glody Dube Shanta Ghosh Zsuzsanna Szabó-Olgyai Samir Moussaoui Ricardo Roach Moussa Aouanouk Anna Jakubczak Doris Auer Athina Papayianni Monica Twum Vladimír Maška Robert Daly (sprinter) Ousmane Niang Marcel Lopuchovský Saïd Berioui Roman Magdziarczyk Katarzyna Żakowicz Wilbert Pennings Voldemārs Lūsis Alex Malinga Camilla Johansson (triple jumper) Zhivko Videnov Dariusz Trafas Serhiy Dymchenko Montxu Miranda Marie Poissonnier Ari Ichihashi Uģis Brūvelis Marvin Watts Shin Il-yong Roman Rozna Zach Whitmarsh Konstantinos Pochanis Libor Malina Viktor Kovács Yu Xin (athlete) Ivaylo Rusenov Tetyana Kryvobok Vítor Costa (hammer thrower) Wilfrid Boulineau Zeng Xiujun Jo Van Daele Ricardo Williams (athlete) Megumi Oshima Sergey Bochkov Mehdi Jelodarzadeh Erkinjon Isakov Vladimir Potemin Darko Juričić Alpha B. Kamara Harijan Ratnayake Sergey Izmaylov Beatriz Santiago Marián Bokor Tanko Braimah Mike Trautmann Dimitrios Serelis Sheena Tosta Casey Malone Kristin Heaston Moushaumi Robinson Ralf Bartels Sylviane Félix Natalia Semenova Anna Mahon Laura Gerraughty Erin Gilreath Olimpiada Ivanova Dmitriy Karpov Natalya Ivanova (hurdler) Claudia Hoffmann Claudia Marx Mario Pestano Joeri Jansen Tatyana Levina Fatou Bintou Fall Jaroslav Bába Eddy De Lépine Yu Chaohong Dragana Tomašević Elizna Naudé Lien Huyghebaert Ilona Usovich Iryna Lishchynska Paolo Casarsa Samwel Mwera Julio Rey Daichi Sawano Roman Valiyev Romary Rifka David Fiegen Petrina Price Delphine Atangana Mohammed Amyn Shi Dongpeng Geraldine Pillay André Höhne Miho Sato Li Yanxi Barbara Madejczyk Alena Newmyarzhytskaya Bastian Swillims Grzegorz Sudoł Song Hongjuan Li Meiju Wioletta Frankiewicz Volodymyr Zyuskov Su Yiping Pavel Sofin Małgorzata Pskit Aliaksandr Parkhomenka Li Rongxiang Aïda Sellam David Söderberg Štěpán Tesařík Serhiy Demydyuk Hicham Bellani Giovanni Lanaro Larisa Kruglova Brandon Simpson Iryna Mykhalchenko Vitaliy Shkurlatov David Alerte Majed Saeed Sultan Yvonne Harrison Monika Bejnar Miroslav Vodovnik Khoudir Aggoune Momchil Karailiev Nahida Touhami Tatyana Roslanova Gert-Jan Liefers Patrick van Balkom Hannes Hopley Tamicka Clarke Aurelia Trywiańska Tarek Boukensa Sathi Geetha Hortense Béwouda Moonika Aava Dana Cervantes Abdelhak Zakaria Ruwen Faller Estie Wittstock Eugène Martineau (athlete) Andriy Sokolovskyy Kim Yoo-suk Johan Cronje Geronimo Goeloe Zuzana Malíková Anastasiya Shvedova Han Yucheng Candice Scott Randy Lewis (triple jumper) Chen Haijian Todd Matthews-Jouda Liu Yinghui Ibrahim Mohamedin Manuel Fuenmayor Vera Begić Viktor Yastrebov Darren Gilford Mariya Koroteyeva Wolfram Müller Abbas Samimi Daniela Cârlan Nili Abramski Margaret Maury Ruben Ramolefi Vadim Strogalev Maria Martins (athlete) Lee Eun-jung Aaron Egbele Volha Krautsova Lee Mi-young (shot putter) Grzegorz Sposób Jurij Rovan Carolina Torres Benjamin Kuciński Radosław Popławski Ibrahima Maïga Eddy Riva Abel Chimukoko Christian Nicolay Alberto Chaíça Katleen De Caluwé Svatoslav Ton Miguel Quesada Édgar Hernández (racewalker) Mounir Yemmouni Ahmed Jumah Jaber Viktor Gushchinskiy David Boulanger Mariam Kevkhishvili Jo Bun-hui Jorge Costa (racewalker) Vitaliy Moskalenko Monder Rizki Li Fengfeng Jane Wanjiku Vincent Le Dauphin Anna Guzowska Roman Fricke Mariyana Dimitrova Yusmay Bicet Akosua Serwaa Zhu Hongjun Souhalia Alamou Mario Iván Flores Nelya Neporadna Matti Närhi Paula Tarvainen Élisabeth Grousselle Jiang Jing Sultan Tucker Nicolas Aissat Ramil Aritkulov Nabil Madi Galina Pedan Jānis Karlivāns Joan van den Akker Liliana Zagacka Mestawat Tadesse Michal Šneberger Jakub Czaja Nadine Hentschke Lauri Leis Tepa Reinikainen Gaspar Araújo Boštjan Šimunič Evans Marie Pavel Potapovich Sanja Gavrilović Zhao Yingying Claudia Tonn Tewodros Shiferaw Zhou Can Marcel Matanin Juliane Sprenger-Afflerbach Ilze Gribule Stefan Drews Tomohiro Ito Luís Sá Winneth Dube Zhang Hao (triple jumper) Chang Jung-yeon Gaolesiela Salang Yuriy Voronkin Péter Tölgyesi Ruslan Yeremenko Liang Shuyan Lloyd Zvasiya Liliya Dusmetova Ibrahim Tondi Torsten Schmidt (athlete) Miguel Pate Daniel Dąbrowski Kim Deok-hyeon Roman Smirnov (sprinter) Abdalaati Iguider Frédéric Xhonneux Youcef Abdi Iryna Novozhylova Kathrin Klaas Chang Ming-huang Tsuyoshi Ogata Georgi Ivanov (shot putter) Mickaël Hanany Gu Junjie Leonid Andreev (athlete) Jan Kudlička Yevgeny Lukyanenko Martyn Bernard Yuliya Tarasova Zinaida Sendriūtė Alberto Paulo John Robert Oosthuizen Hadi Sepehrzad Aleksey Drozdov Nicole Büchler Jung Soon-ok Lukáš Melich Jarkko Kinnunen Lajos Kürthy Tom Parsons (high jumper) Mohamed Moustaoui Xie Limei Antar Zerguelaïne Isabel Le Roux Sinta Ozoliņa-Kovala Tadas Šuškevičius Gashaw Asfaw Mohamed Ameur Mikalai Shubianok María José Poves Aleksandr Derevyagin Teemu Wirkkala Anis Selmouni Juan Carlos de la Ossa Roba Gari Maksim Lynsha Vitalij Kozlov Korene Hinds Svetlana Saykina Bogdan Pishchalnikov Thamer Kamal Ali Lin Chia-ying Kseniya Dziatsuk Anton Lyuboslavskiy Henry Dagmil Marcel van der Westen Peter Horák Volha Sudarava Roman Novotný Chen Qi (javelin thrower) Aleksey Sysoyev Joy Eze Przemysław Czerwiński Vyacheslav Muravyev Mekdes Bekele Vonette Dixon Karina Vnukova Robert Häggblom Tetyana Filonyuk Tero Järvenpää Oleksiy Kazanin Antti Kempas Marcin Starzak Tesfayohannes Mesfin Pieter de Villiers (athlete) Tsvetelina Kirilova Ali Abdalla Nina Kolarič Ingus Janevics Liliya Kulyk António Pereira (racewalker) Jan Marcell Donatas Škarnulis Dobrinka Shalamanova Inna Poluškina Tomasz Szymkowiak Fanuel Kenosi Mohamad Siraj Tamim Nathalie De Vos Meritzer Williams Danny D'Souza Mihkel Kukk Uladzimir Kazlou Zhao Chengliang Aleksandra Antonova (hurdler) Louis Tristán Oxana Juravel Olga Ivanova (athlete) Urszula Piwnicka Monica Stoian Aleksey Pogorelov Natalya Murinovich Julien Fivaz Domingas Togna Oleksandra Stadnyuk Demma Daba Anastasiya Ott Andriy Makarchev Ri Kum-song Olha Ivankova Eric Matthias Svitlana Mamyeyeva Kim Il-nam Chang Chunfeng Bianca Knight Serhiy Smelyk Vladimir Krasnov Anita Márton Ben Youssef Meïté Julian Reus Fabienne Kohlmann Pavel Trenikhin Laura Ikauniece Giovanni Codrington Borja Vivas Linda Stahl Sara Petersen (hurdler) Marek Niit Lyudmila Kolchanova Kevin López (runner) Madara Palameika Christian Reif Brigita Virbalytė-Dimšienė Adnan Taess Martin Wierig Cao Shuo Sonata Tamošaitytė Issam Nima Lucas Jakubczyk Serghei Marghiev Thomas Schneider (sprinter) Jessica Samuelsson (heptathlete) Takayuki Kishimoto Andreas Bube Alexandros Papamichail Alexander John (athlete) Risto Mätas Bianca Stuart Isabel Macías Eric Krüger Jonas Plass Indrė Jakubaitytė Nicolas Figère Povilas Mykolaitis Jānis Leitis Lenka Masná Josephine Terlecki Ebba Jungmark Janeil Bellille Remalda Kergytė-Dauskurdienė Nils Duerinck Lehann Fourie Spyridon Lebesis Natalya Kushch-Mazuryk Rafał Sikora Igor Bychkov (pole vaulter) Víctor García (runner) Diego Ruiz (runner) Jérôme Bortoluzzi Kadene Vassell Jung Sang-jin Nick McCormick Daryna Prystupa Aleksandra Kotlyarova Irène Pusterla Álvaro Rodríguez (athlete) Fawaz Al-Shammari Josef Robertson Mykola Labovskyi Jamale Aarrass Olena Kholosha Zhao Jianguo Eva Lubbers Julien Watrin Andrius Gudžius Pieter-Jan Hannes Kristin Gierisch Emiliano Lasa Thomas Jordier Nauraj Singh Randhawa Wang Yu (high jumper) Hanna Plotitsyna Oksana Okunyeva Roberto Sawyers Mame-Ibra Anne Ahymara Espinoza Lebogang Shange Kristiina Mäkelä Adrian Griffith (athlete) Gregor Traber Guo Tianqian Paula Todoran Yuan Qiqi Zarck Visser Alena Sobaleva Joana Costa Levi Cadogan Tigist Gashaw Robert Renner (athlete) Sven Knipphals Gao Yang (shot putter) Ren Mengqian Mamadou Chérif Dia Sandra Gomis Abdullah Abkar Mohammed Marcelle Bouele Bondo Mahmoud Samimi Natallia Viatkina Salim Keddar Femke Pluim Su Xinyue Sven Martin Skagestad Krystyna Hryshutyna Harold Correa Rumen Dimitrov (triple jumper) Boitumelo Masilo Niklas Kaul Mykhaylo Kokhan Bob Bertemes Alexander Doom Óscar Husillos Tony van Diepen Samuel García (sprinter) Taio Kanai Ngoni Makusha Yuki Koike (sprinter) Patrik Šorm María Lucelly Murillo Agnė Šerkšnienė Jin Min-sub Gatis Čakšs Michal Desenský Alin Firfirică Taymir Burnet Yaqoub Al-Youha Diana Mezuliáníková Mostafa Amr Hassan Jan Jirka Xu Huiqin Karyna Demidik Huang Guifen Dawit Fikadu Line Kloster Krista Tervo Nadezhda Dubovitskaya Ryan Sánchez Anete Kociņa Lassi Etelätalo Gabriel Tual Eliott Crestan Shunsuke Izumiya Loïc Gasch Taha Hussein Yaseen Song Jiayuan Wu Ruiting

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:06, 28 December 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 06:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I found these with a simple one line search i.e. . If I expanded it to pre-1950 or other sports I am sure we would find many more. Are all of these thousands of articles subject to immediate deletion because they don't include a non-database reference from the start? I suspect that a mass AfD would not come to that conclusion. So then what principle are we operating on here? --Habst (talk) 15:42, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * All of those articles are eligible for deletion, given a standard BEFORE. Prior to the 2022 consensuses, any of those articles where the subject met a sport-specific NSPORT criterion would have benefited from a presumption of notability that made them much harder to nominate and delete, although they still were required to demonstrate GNG sourcing "eventually". The NSPORT2022 consensus removed all presumption of notability and replaced it with a rebuttable presumption that GNG coverage exists for criterion-meeting athletes if a source of GNG SIGCOV has been identified. This was due to the widespread agreement that the NSPORT sport-specific criteria were, on the whole, much too lax and divorced from the standard they were supposed to predict (GNG). The onus has switched from delete !voters needing to demonstrate a herculean search effort to get such athletes removed, to keep !voters needing to produce the sources showing the athlete actually does meet GNG or at least meets SPORTCRIT with a strong presumption of further coverage existing offline. JoelleJay (talk) 23:36, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @JoelleJay, thank you for responding. If you think all of those articles plus hundreds more are eligible for deletion, then why not make a deletion request on those grounds so we can settle that question with one big discussion, instead of having dozens of little discussions as articles get nominated here or there, some of which end up being kept? (If you need help, I can provide the other hundreds of articles you say are eligible for deletion by expanding my search). --Habst (talk) 19:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ...Because we don't want to overwhelm AfD with hundreds of nominations at once? And because bundled AfDs are rarely productive? I didn't say all those articles should be AfD'd, only that they are eligible given a standard BEFORE, which is in contrast to the pre-RfC custom of needing a much higher BEFORE threshold to nominate such articles. JoelleJay (talk) 21:05, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @JoelleJay, thank you for replying and also thank you for your contributions to these discussions, I do think they have helped to improve the articles. AfD process allows you to combine all of the articles into a single nomination. If anything, I think it is far more overwhelming to AfD to have new nominations every week where we essentially rehash the same arguments over and over, rather than just doing it all at once and establishing a principle. --Habst (talk) 19:13, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * A bundled AFD composed of hundreds of AFD-nominated articles would meet with a procedural close, I'm guessing. It might seem like the easy way to consider a high volume of articles but it would be impossible for interested editors to evaluate that many articles and their sources over the course of a week which makes the process unfeasible. Liz Read! Talk! 03:05, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, we are allowed to use common sense when appropriate, per WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT, which are guidelines (versus policy). Not certain if that is the right option yet (to use IAR), just noting. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:09, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Redirect to Niger at the 1992 Summer Olympics. Subject lacks the proper WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG for a standalone article. The current sources are just from sports databases. Let&#39;srun (talk) 15:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Let'srun, thank you for voting. I think that this article is in desperate need of attention and sources, but I also think it is necessary for us to make a holistic effort at finding sources before we vote to delete or redirect. I've looked through some of the papers on this list, but it seems like most have only archived stories from the last few years on their website, and do not have a searchable archive going back to Illiassou's active participation years. Do you know where we can search to have the best chance of finding coverage of the subject? I think we would be doing him a disservice by only looking at a web search knowing that most of his accomplishments happened pre-Internet. --Habst (talk) 23:45, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I respectfully think you are overdoing it in this case, Habst. Replying over and over again when there is nothing of substance to be said about the guy, who was not a good athlete by any means - just happened to be less worse than the others at the time. This is not worth the time, so please do not reply to me by reiterating the same stuff again. Geschichte (talk) 08:28, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


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