Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hawaii Nation


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was snow delete and redirect all to Kingdom of Hawaii. I, for one, am very familiar with this subject.  Singu larity  04:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Hawaii Nation, Hawaii nation, Nation of Hawaii, Nation of hawaii

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Politically-driven OR. Delete Owen&times; &#9742;  00:43, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What is your "proof" that is it "politically" driven? I have provided "facts" to support what is currently there and there is no statement that is politically motivated. -- PiPhD 00:58, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's your problem -- you provided "facts" and not facts. Quotation marks usually mean not really. Ten Pound Hammer  • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 01:07, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - I cannot find any reliable sources that asset to the existence of this purported nation. Also, this article is full of self-reference, which is bad. --Haemo 01:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So would you suggest that this entry be redirected to: Kingdom of Hawaii ?  -- PiPhD 01:09, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but I honestly don't know what is the appropriate course of action here, since I'm not familiar with the concept, or with the supposed differences between the Kingdom of Hawaii and the Nation of Hawaii. --Haemo 01:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, completely WP:OR that fails WP:RS. Ten Pound Hammer  • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 01:07, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, Wikipedia is not an advocacy service. meshach 01:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, per advocacy service...not!  Also, only cites itself (you know what I mean...) Brusegadi 01:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

You guys are funny. :o) --  PiPhD 01:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, This fails WP:NPOV, fails WP:RS - so much so that the original author cannot even find reliable sources himself, resorting to a plea for help in that regard. If it weren't for the fact that it's so clearly Puffery, such a please might be worth listening to - though it would belong on the talk page, not in the article itself.&mdash; Timotab Timothy (not Timdagnabbit!) 01:44, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Who has the countdown for deletion? -- PiPhD 01:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete and redirect all to Kingdom of Hawaii per all of the above. A snowball might not survive this 5-day discussion process. --Evb-wiki 01:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, redirect and replace Hawaii Nation is the name of a website, not the name of an entity (at any point in Hawaii's history as an independent country). Treaty links should be redirected to List of bilateral treaties signed by the Kingdom of Hawaii, while Kingdom of Hawaii already gives a good detail on the history of the country before it came under Republican, and later U.S. rule. --Toussaint 02:08, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Ten Pound Hammer. This OR at best. Edward321 02:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete OR/ADBalloonman 03:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to Kingdom of Hawaii if appropriate. This article appears to be claiming flatly that Hawaii is not a state, which runs counter to common knowledge and any number of articles, such as Hawaii. Stating that certain groups believe that Hawaii's annexation was invalid is OK (as long as specific groups can be cited!), but that belongs elsewhere - Hawaiian sovereignty movement, for example. Beyond that, there's a serious lack of sources in this article (a single news source is pretty slim pickings), and a general lack of content to build on. Note that I removed a couple rather serious self-references, including a reference to this AfD. Zetawoof(&zeta;) 03:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Kingdom of Hawaii. Mathmo Talk 03:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.