Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haymarket District (Lincoln, Nebraska)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Per WP:SKCRIT#1. The nominator has withdrawn their nomination and there are no other arguments for deletion or redirection. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 10:45, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Haymarket District (Lincoln, Nebraska)

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The sources posted in an article are a self-published source promoting the area, a state-sponsored tourism site, and a human interest story from a Nebraska newspaper (WP:RS states "Human interest reporting is generally not as reliable as news reporting, and may not be subject to the same rigorous standards of fact-checking and accuracy (see junk food news).[6].". The other two sources are promotional in nature, and frankly I can't find good sources that aren't promotional and mention the district in more than a passing source.  Additionally, the page is a gallery with little text.  Fails WP:GNG and WP:NOTGALLERY. Hog Farm (talk) 04:27, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep (was "Keep"), though probably merge with the topic of "Lincoln Haymarket Historic District" (currently a red-link). I cross-checked the map location of neighborhood in AFD-topic article, vs. map locations for all coordinates included in National Register of Historic Places listings in Lancaster County, Nebraska list-article, and found a little flag for the historic district in the OpenSource map displayed by clicking "Map of all coordinates".  Also interesting to me is the fact that the OpenSource map directly indicates a "Haymarket" area.
 * The historic district will be understood as Wikipedia-notable because it is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, and therefore we know that extensive documentation about it will exist. It was listed in 2014 and there is not yet a separate Wikipedia article about it.  Perhaps it should be developed within the AFD-topic article.
 * In summary, "Keep", because it is an area recognized on a major historic registry, and we know extensive documentation exists. Yes, sure, it needs to be edited/modified to convey that, and to use the documentation to define bounds of the area and describe what makes it historic etc. etc. But, also, wp:AFDISNOTFORCLEANUP; this does not all need to be done before this AFD is closed "Keep", or perhaps "Speedy Keep".--Doncram (talk) 06:02, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, further, there is this article explaining "Lincoln City Council designated the eight-block Haymarket Landmark District in 1982, giving it recognition and protection as a major element of Lincoln's heritage." And covering 1984 plan for the area, and "In 1985 the Haymarket was selected as a demonstration project by the National Main Street Center. The Haymarket was the first urban warehouse district to undertake that highly successful economic revitalization program of the National Trust for Historic Preservation. In the decades that followed, project by project, business by business, with new infrastructure and special events like Farmers Market, the Haymarket has been transformed from a largely vacant, crumbling area into a vibrant part of Downtown Lincoln.  It is a special place to live and work, to create and recreate.  The Haymarket’s success was recognized by the American Planning Association in 2009 with its “Great American Neighborhood” designation."  It has received awards!
 * And here is National Register's announcement of its listing as a historic district in 2014, and, linked from there, here is the extensive National Register document about the district, 140 pages long (50 pages text and diagrams + 90 pages photos). (By the way i have to scroll over to the right, to see the document pages, after that loads for me.)  It was authored by Ed Zimmer and Stacey Groshong, planners at the Lincoln/Lancaster County Planning Department, and was approved by state-level and national-level reviewers.  Actually there is some indication the district was, years earlier, deemed "eligible" but not then listed.  It includes an indexed map of blocks and buildings, and 90 photos from 2013-14.
 * So, actually, it was an egregious gap in Wikipedia's coverage when we did not have an article, before this short one was created by FloridaArmy in November 2018. It just needs to be expanded like crazy.  I change my !vote to "Speedy Keep". --Doncram (talk) 06:27, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I missed that it was on the National Register of Historic Places somehow during my WP:BEFORE.  I still think it runs afoul of WP:NOTGALLERY, but that's a editing, not an AfD issue. Hog Farm (talk) 06:43, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Withdrawn. My bad, didn't see the location was on the Register of Historic Places.  That solves notability, and while the article still has issues, deletion is not the correct solution for fixing them. Hog Farm (talk) 06:43, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:50, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nebraska-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:50, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.