Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hazrat Ali


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure)  HurricaneFan 25  00:07, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Hazrat Ali

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No real claim to fame. Just another Afghani "warlord". Most of the references are completely irrelevant and don't even mention him.  Wasell ( T ) 17:15, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment -- He is not "just another Afghani "warlord"' He is one of the most important militia leaders. He is the militia leader routinely blamed for allowing, or being bribed, to let Osama bin Laden sneak out of Tora Bora.  He is featured in the 60 minutes segment on Dalton Fury's book.  FWIW I think any Afghan militia leader with significant press coverage establishing their notability merits their own article.  But Ali, as one of the leaders of the short-term breakaway Eastern Shura would also merit an article under WP:POLITICIAN, as, prior to agreeing to be part of the Afghan Transitional Authority the Eastern Shura was nominally independent.  Geo Swan (talk) 17:29, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:15, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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 * Speedy keep -- Due to being elected to Afghanistan's Wolesi Jirga -- its national assembly -- in 2005, Ali merits an article as per WP:POLITICIAN. Geo Swan (talk) 20:20, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I just removed 1/3 of the article because it is blatant WP:OR and violation of WP:BLP. Birdmight (talk) 23:09, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep notable military commander/warlord and politician. Should we not have articles on all Afghan warlords? Buckshot06 (talk) 13:05, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Prominent military commander and politician. I agree we should probably have articles on all Afghan warlords, since they're all effectively generals (whether they hold a formal rank or not) and rulers in their own right. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:35, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Agreed per all of the above. Article looks good in shape. --Katarighe (talk) 22:54, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
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