Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HealthONE Colorado


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The result was no consensus. North America1000 01:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

HealthONE Colorado

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This doesn't meet any aspect of WP:N. After 12 years in CAT:NN, taking to AfD for a conclusion. Boleyn (talk) 14:22, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete if the largest healthcare system were sourceable (I tried when I too found it in the backlog), it might be notable and a good place to have a list of the child hospitals that aren't themselves notable. However, I haven't been able to source the claim. What I added is all I could find, and part of why I left the notability tag was it was in no way enough. There is probably coverage, but it is impossible to find amid all the random mentions, especially in the Covid year.      StarM 14:28, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colorado-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:39, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:13, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I just dropped a citation in that does indeed claim that HealthOne was the largest system in metro Denver when HCA became the sole owner in 2011 (by the way, I'd think this article should be at HealthOne alone; HealthONE redirects to the article on HCA, and the new title would meet WP:NCCAPS). The 1993 Denver Post article I added mentions that, at that time, HealthOne was one of Colorado's largest employers, with 7,500 staff and annual revenues in excess of $650 million. I'd have to lean keep, but the article needs sourcing work. Try searching the Denver Business Journal pre-2020; I have NewsBank access and can search from the early 1990s on in Denver's two major newspapers, in case you need more to improve. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 00:26, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, for the tip on where to look. I'm getting a lot of noise related to Elway's participation in their golf tournament. Oh google, you are so weird at times. I'm also hoping for some stuff in scholar, which I'll dig into over the weekend as I feel like their facilities might have garnered some conversation. Should this be kept, I agree with your title. If it remains iffy, maybe merger to HCA makes sense since I feel like it could still be a good landing spot.      StarM 01:22, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Bavley, Alan. (2002-12-17). "Tales of Two Cities: Joint ventures offer insights on how HCA Inc. might operate in Kansas City" (pages 1 and 2). The Kansas City Star. Archived from the original (pages 1 and 2) on 2021-04-19. Retrieved 2021-04-19 – via Newspapers.com. This is a very extensive profile of HealthOne in The Kansas City Star, a major newspaper in a different state from which HealthOne is based. The article quotes from Edwin Kahn, "a Denver attorney and chairman of the Colorado Center on Law and Policy, a health welfare advocacy group". Kahn said, "The alliance seems to be very incestuous with the HealthOne hospital. They haven't diversified assets, they haven't developed the revenue to benefit the community. Their fate is inextricably tied to this for-profit entity." The article notes: "HealthOne did curtail some programs, such as home health care and psychiatric services. ... Meanwhile, charity care by HealthOne's hospitals has been growing at more than twice the rate of other Colorado hospitals, from $12.2million in 1998 to $30.2million last year.   The article notes: "Hundreds of thousands of Coloradans must find a new hospital or pay significantly more for care as a midnight Thursday deadline passed in a dispute between the state's largest health insurer and its largest hospital company. Health and government officials Thursday urged Denver-area residents not to panic over failed contract talks between insurer United Healthcare and HealthOne."   The article notes: " HealthONE and Columbia/HCA Healthcare Corp. agreed yesterday to proceed with plans to form a joint venture that will claim a 33 percent share of the Denver area's hospital business. ... Columbia-HealthONE, with $1.2 billion in assets and an estimated $1 billion in annual revenues, will be the largest single health-care provider in Denver." </li> <li> The article notes: "Combining the two models is how the Colorado Health Foundation was created. In 1995, nonprofit HealthONE, doing business as the Colorado Health Foundation, and for-profit Hospital Corporation of America (HCA) pooled their Denver assets to form HCAHealthONE, which owns seven Denver area hospitals and numerous clinics and other facilities. The foundation, with nearly $1 billion in assets, doles out millions annually toward its goals of expanding health care access to the underserved, improving healthy living, bringing insurance coverage to more people, and providing graduate medical education." </li> <li> The article notes: "HealthOne is a 50-50 joint venture owned by HCA - The Healthcare Co. and HealthOne Alliance, a Colorado nonprofit organization. The health care system's six hospitals and more than 40 health care clinics employ more than 9,000 workers." </li> <li> The article notes: "HealthOne Alliance, the nonprofit half of Denver's largest hospital system, this week turned down a buyout offer from its Nashville, Tenn.-based partner, HCA Inc. ... HealthOne operates seven Denver-area hospitals, including Presbyterian/St. Luke's and the new Sky Ridge Medical Center, scheduled to open in Lone Tree in August. The HealthOne hospital system was created in 1995 when Columbia/HCA's nonprofit HealthOne traded $350 million in debt to its parent for a 50 percent stake in the Denver hospitals and a contract to operate them." </li> <li> The article notes: "Columbia / HealthOne was created two years ago this week when HealthOne merged its system with the local holdings of Nashville-based Columbia / HCA. At the time the deal was made, there were two HealthOnes: the hospital corporation and a charity responsible for fund raising for the hospitals. The board of the hospital corporation arranged the deal with Columbia, and eight of its board members appointed themselves to the new joint-venture board. Then the HealthOne hospital corporation disappeared. The charity became the new HealthOne Inc. and was given responsibility for the system's medical education programs for nurses and physician residents, research programs and a variety of outreach programs, such as Mother's Milk Bank and an annual health care symposium." </li> <li> The article notes: "That hasn't stopped wide speculation about Hilger's future with the new organization, a 50-50 joint venture between for-profit Columbia, the nation's largest hospital firm, and not-for-profit HealthOne, the metro area's largest hospital company." </li> <li> The article notes: "HealthONE owns or operates 38 outpatient clinics in the Denver area. Columbia owns or operates three surgery centers and 28 primary-care centers in the area." </li> <li> The article notes: "The standoff between the metro-area HealthOne hospital chain and giant insurer United Healthcare continued Friday, and no contract talks were scheduled going into the Labor Day weekend." </li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow HealthOne to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 10:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC) </li></ul> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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