Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Health intervention


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 15:09, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Health intervention

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"Health intervention" refers to the activities of people involved in Health promotion. This topic belongs in that article, but there is no cited content here to keep. Daask (talk) 09:51, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 13:24, 26 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Health promotion is advocacy. Health intervention is action to induce people to adopt health behavior, through such things as taxation or regulations. Butthe present article is extremely weak, and it needs major improvement.  DGG ( talk ) 01:19, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I realize of these terms may imply those meanings, but are you familiar with the field of health promotion? Daask (talk) 01:31, 3 April 2018 (UTC) edited 09:58, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. I agree, health intervention is part of health promotion and the article is a WP:STUB with only one citation. Waddie96 (talk) 16:42, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:38, 2 April 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 16:42, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep -- A ridiculous nomination as nom has stated no valid reason for deletion. First of all, because topic X is part of topic Y does not mean that topic X does not get its own article.  Second, that there's no cited material in the article is not a reason for deletion per WP:ARTN.  That being said, the subject of health intervention massively, overwhelmingly, satisfies the GNG.  Just e.g. look at [],, , and on and on and on and on. As for Waddie96's argument that this should be deleted because it's a stub, well, WP:SOFIXIT.  Being a stub is not a valid reason for deletion. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 17:40, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with the notion in the essay Deletion and deletionism where: "If you vote to "keep and cleanup", be prepared to clean up. I, for one, keep a close eye on articles where this seems to be the consensus, and I will take it back to AfD after a month or so if no one bothers to touch the article in that time. To vote for keep and cleanup and then not clean it up is just lying." So please, if you wish to keep the article then please be prepared to fix it yourself and add information from the numerous sources you have linked above (as per WP:SOFIXIT as well). The article has been a stub since its creation in 2009. There was no activity for 1 year until it was nominated AfD. -- Waddie96 (talk) 09:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * If you take an interest in an article where there are available reliable sources that are not in the article it is as much your responsibility to add them to the article as anyone else and taking such an article back to AFD instead of fixing it yourself is poor practice as the article will almost certainly be kept on the basis of existing rs, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 13:25, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * User:192.160.216.52 has an ongoing SPI here accused of avoiding a topic ban on all deletion discussions. It might be appropriate to disregard his/her vote. -- Waddie96 (talk) 09:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note -- It's an ongoing SPI without evidence that no one believes is accurate. It's reprehensible of you to cite this as a reason to ignore my "vote" (even though no one votes in AfDs).  And your sharing your beliefs in various random essays is kind and interesting, but it's not relevant to the outcome of an AfD.  AfDs are decided purely on the basis of WP policy. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 12:28, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment Being a stub, for any length of time, doesn't necessitate deletion. And "Keep and Clean up" only has any moral strength at requiring those who say that if their Keep vote was contingent on it being cleaned up. Some cases obviously fall into that, however many who say that do so on the grounds of thinking it is poor, but still Keep-worthy (just) as is. I say with mixed views on this specific article, so haven't yet come to a clear view. Nosebagbear (talk)


 * On which note, what on Earth does "encourage at-risk subjects to develop a viable theory of mind that supersedes authoritarian structures" mean? Nosebagbear (talk) 11:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe it means "It'd be nice if there were more responsible, personally mature adults in the world"? The original reminds me of Dave Barry on downward tropism in pre-adolescents.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:54, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


 * keep per DGG rationale--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:41, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - I am unpersuaded by 's examples and appeal to WP:ARTN. Intervention is a word widely used in a variety of disciplines to describe what they actually do. Note, for example, that Intervention (consulting) appropriately redirects to Organization development. Separating the page on a profession from the page on the activities of that profession seems highly unusual to me. We don't need a page on Activities of nurses in addition to Nursing. I'd propose merging, but there's just nothing here. Daask (talk) 09:55, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I realized the confusion might be related to bias in the lead of Health promotion toward public policy advocacy. I just wrote a new lead for that article that might help clarify this discussion. Daask (talk) 09:57, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.