Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heartland Baptist Bible College (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Andrew Base (talk) 11:11, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Heartland Baptist Bible College
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Non-notable and unaccredited college, does not satisfy WP:GNG or WP:ORG. The references sources available all appear to relate to the school's (former) California property, or to the post-attendance behaviour of its former students. That notable people attended the school does not make the school notable. There do not appear to be any more current sources about the school, and basic information such as number of students is not included in the school's website. Risker (talk) 02:50, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:32, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk</b>) 03:32, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep per the arguments in the last AfD. I think the nominator is misguided about the significance of the history of the institution - if there is significant coverage under the former name in a former location - that is enough for notability. StAnselm (talk) 11:34, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, you've hit the nail on the head. There isn't significant coverage of this private college in either its current existence or its past existence. There's a brief, 2-paragraph mention in a book. There are three articles from a local paper in the early 1990s, one short one about the campus and student rules, and the other two about a land sale the school was trying to get approved. There doesn't seem to be any other independent reporting or information about the school in either its former or current iterations. The arguments in the last AFD were largely based on a much more liberal interpretation of WP:ORGCRIT that essentially prejudged all high schools and colleges as being de facto notable; that isn't the case anymore, and hasn't been for several years.  The majority of references in the article are about the misdeeds of alumni. They are appropriate for the articles about notable alumni, and are actually not relevant to the college; that section probably should be removed from the article on a BLP basis.  Risker (talk) 05:31, 1 December 2019 (UTC) NOTE: I forgot to include the two references "demonstrating" that the college participated in intercollegiate sports when located in California. Both articles mention the college only in passing, and are not at all about the college; in fact, they're about totally different college sports programs. Risker (talk) 06:38, 1 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep as has coverage in reliable sources of its history which is valid content and so there is no need for deletion, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:29, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
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<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Hyperbolick (talk) 06:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:03, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete My WP:BEFORE has not turned up any useable sources. Lack of accreditation and lack of reliable non trivial secondary sources mean that this college fails both SNG and GNG. Wm335td (talk) 19:49, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - My weak keep is due to the college's previous incarnation and the minor coverage in the LA Times. <b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b> <sup style="color:#800080">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:06, 16 December 2019 (UTC)


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