Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heartless (Kanye West song)


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The result was   keep. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  01:22, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Heartless (Kanye West song)

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No independent third-party confirmation of this record being released as a single. Winger84 (talk) 20:13, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * There is a video which is labeled as one of the sources on the page that has Kanye confirming himself that the song is going to be the next single off the CD. If that isn't enough proof than I don't know what it. Dfnj123 (talk) 20:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The video is also a video from Consequence's video blog. Consequence is a rapper on Kanye's record label GOOD Music.  Therefore, the video is in someways first party.Dfnj123 (talk) 21:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Deductive reasoning is not sufficient to prove reliable for Wikipedia purposes. Also, artist statements are not reliable, given that the artist has very little control over their A&R anymore.  --Winger84 (talk) 15:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I added more sources last night, thats all I can do for now. Sorry I'm not so much on top of wiki rules and such.  I'm just a little agravated because this has pretty much been confirmed. Dfnj123 (talk) 16:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * None of the sources provided qualify as a source that would meet requirements. An official statement from the label or a linked "going for adds" post from Radio and Records is really what we're looking for here. --Winger84 (talk) 17:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, lacks non-trivial coverage from reliable THIRD PARTY publications. JBsupreme (talk) 03:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Kanye himself confirmed the fact it's a single at the T.I. concert he performed at. FortWhatever (talk) 21:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep There is recorded proof that Kanye has announced that the song will be the second single from the CD. MTV (reliable THIRD PARTY publications) is reporting this as well and I have added them as a source on the page for the song.Dfnj123 (talk) 22:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  21:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Sources have been added for confirmation. Recommend withdrawal. Glass  Cobra  19:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep music single which meets WP:MUSIC, second the recommendation for withdrawal at this stage. RFerreira (talk) 19:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sources listed still are referring to a confirmation from Kanye West himself, which is not enough to prove that it will actually be the album's second single. Artists have very little control over their A&R anymore. --Winger84 (talk) 20:09, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If anyone has control over singles, it Kanye.Dfnj123 (talk) 01:11, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's an opinion. --Efe (talk) 07:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I know, but saying that a statement from Kanye along with reliable sources isn't proof then what is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfnj123 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep per MTV. It's early days, but the article will develop once released. Spellcast (talk) 22:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * MTV source still says that the single was announced by Kanye, not the label. --Winger84 (talk) 23:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


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