Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heather Arnet (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is clear. One keep argument argues there's sourcing, but this point is disagreed with. Drmies (talk) 20:05, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Heather Arnet
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WP:BLP of a person whose most substantive claims of notability are as the executive director of an organization of exclusively local notability, as a former member of a school board, and as an as-yet-unelected candidate in a future election to the state legislature. All of the reliable sourcing here is sitting on the latter two claims, both of which fail to satisfy WP:NPOL — school board trustees don't get articles just for being school board trustees, and candidates for office don't get articles just for being candidates. Which means that her eligibility for a Wikipedia article rests entirely on "executive director of the Women and Girls Foundation of Southwest Pennsylvania", but that claim is supported exclusively by primary sources that cannot contribute toward deeming her notable, with not a single citation in the entire article to a reliable and independent source that's covering her in that context. While this was kept in an earlier AFD discussion in 2008, Wikipedia's sourcing and notability rules are very different now than they were at that time — we're a lot stricter now (especially when it comes to a WP:BLP) about what constitutes legitimate sourcing and what is or isn't a suitable claim of notability, and this doesn't meet 2015-vintage content standards. I'm willing to withdraw this if reliable sourcing can be piled properly onto her directorship of a non-profit organization, but if that can't be done then she has to win the state-level election later this year before she's eligible for an article. Delete, without prejudice against recreation if things change in the future. Bearcat (talk) 19:53, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep but the article has much cruft, needs more references, and needs severe pruning. Sources can be found here. Meets the WP:GNG--Tomwsulcer (talk) 23:11, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Purely local coverage of her in the context of either the school board or her candidacy for an office she doesn't hold yet doesn't count toward WP:GNG at all — it falls under WP:ROUTINE, because all school board trustees and all candidates for office always generate local coverage. So such coverage does not demonstrate notability — for coverage of a school board trustee or a non-elected candidate for higher office to flip from ROUTINE to GNG, it has to nationalize or internationalize. The only ways she can get over GNG are to either (a) have generated coverage specifically in the context of her directorship of the Women and Girls Foundation, or (b) win the state senate seat when that election happens. But A hasn't been demonstrated here, and B is still in the future and thus can't be met today without violating WP:CRYSTAL. Bearcat (talk) 15:53, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 05:07, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 05:07, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a host for election campaigns, so far only very strictly local coverage, and quite trivial Kraxler (talk) 01:18, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk  06:12, 28 August 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk  20:15, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete fails wp:bio, all news coverage is trivial and local in nature. Pokerkiller (talk) 20:03, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:POLITICIAN at this time. Could have been redirected to an article about the 2016 Pennsylvania elections, but such an article does not appear to exist yet. --MelanieN (talk) 03:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.