Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hebrew Academy for Special Children


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Courcelles (talk) 04:00, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Hebrew Academy for Special Children

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I could not find significant coverage in reliable sources to indicate notability. — m o n o  23:09, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:59, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.  —Joe407 (talk) 04:22, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Actually, the link reveals lots of google hits, which indicate notability. Indeed, from what I understand, it's the first Jewish religious catered to the developmentally disabled. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 14:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - there is no significant coverage in 3rd party sources. The only 3rd party source, J Post, is a dead link.  Assertion that it's "the first school..." is original research at this point. Lionel (talk) 17:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that the J-post article cited is available on for-pay archival site. Is that considered a dead-link if you can't freely read the whole article but information is cited from the pay-only sections?  I think that the same way a print article can be cited even without a URL, an article like this can be cited. Joe407 (talk) 04:38, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, because the nominator has conducted a faulty search, and for the following reasons among others: Firstly this is not just one school, it is a network of schools spread over the NYC area consisting of seven branches at different locations. Secondly, even a Google search for "Hebrew Academy for Special Children" yields over 36,000 hits. Thirdly the school is better known by its acronym of "HASC", just that searching for it on Google becomes mixed with a few other "HASCS" but it's still there. Fourthly, this is the most notable school for Orthodox Jewish children with special needs (meaning those afflicted by mental retardation, Down syndrome etc, and there are unfortunately thousands of them, incapable of being in regular Jewish or other schools) in the NYC metro area. Fifthly, it is very famous for its fund-raising concerts known as "HASC concerts that for that alone this organization receives wide media coverage in the Orthodox Jewish community in the NYC area. Sixthly HASC is also famous for its "HASC summer camp that is essentially the leading summer camp for Orthodox Jewish children who are afflicted with the issues described above etc in the NYC area. Therefore to cut out this article, that still needs work, would be to cut out a chunk of the life of the NYC Orthodox Jewish community, the largest in the world outside of Israel and in turn deprive Wikipedia of this WP:Notable organization that has adequate WP:RS. IZAK (talk) 07:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Come on, folks, do a LITTLE looking before you write something off! There are a ton of references in Reliable Sources. I added half a dozen to the article, so if you voted delete, please take another look. --MelanieN (talk) 15:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
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