Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hector Birchwood


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:12, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Hector Birchwood

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Why the page should be deleted The nominator edited Holborn and St Pancras (UK Parliament constituency) to wikilink the Brexit Party candidate, Hector Birchwood. I reverted as no such article existed. The editor then created the article on Hector Birchwood and restored the link. The article is unreferenced and appears to have been created by the candidate or an associate of his to support his candidacy. Dudley Miles (talk) 00:09, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

>>> It's a short factual entry about a candidate for that seat. Why shouldn't the entries link to one another? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4C8:1019:3D7B:1:1:C11:B3CA (talk) 08:43, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:55, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:55, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

>>> I created the article by clicking on the link I created. That's how Wikimedia sites work. Inevitable there is a short period when there is no contents as I write what I know and can find out. I've now added multiple references to the page too, so it is not unreferenced.

Hector Birchwood is quite a well known figure due to his repeated appearances on the Heir Hunters TV programme, extending over some years.

Inevitably if someone is a candidate it is going to have things about that candidate on it.

His adoption as a political candidate makes him intrinsically a more interesting subject and his work in discovering missing heirs is surely relevant and makes him a person of interest. Palfreman (talk) 09:17, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

>>> I've added eight references, covering student activism, his career, Heir Hunters and being appointed Brexit Party candidate. Obviously he is more of interest as an electoral candidate, but being one of the top private investigators in world in his field and TV appearances do make him interesting independently of his candidacy. Palfreman (talk) 10:00, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, without prejudice against recreation on or after election day if he wins the seat. As always, being a candidate in an election the person has not already won is not a notability claim that gets a person into Wikipedia in and of itself — the notability test for politicians is holding a notable political office, not just running for one. But the sources shown here are not mounting a credible claim that he had preexisting notability for any reason that would have gotten him an article independently of the candidacy: four of the eight footnotes are blogs, which are not reliable or notability-supporting sources at all; three of the four media hits tangentially verify stray facts about other people without ever mentioning Hector's name at all in conjunction with them; and he is not himself the subject of the only reliable source that actually mentions his name at all, but is merely a provider of soundbite in an article about something else. This is not the kind of sourcing it takes to demonstrate that he was notable enough for an article prior to running as a candidate for political office, so he still has to win the election before he gets to claim notability as a politician. Bearcat (talk) 14:32, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as Bearcat. Bondegezou (talk) 21:40, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per Bearcat and Bondegezou. I also add that being a head-hunter or heir-finder is a fairly mundane business and not automatically notable, and fails basic requirements for significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 16:57, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per comments above - Jay (talk) 08:32, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete being a candidate in an election is not a notability claim. Wm335td (talk) 20:55, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


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