Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hegardt


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep. Physchim62 (talk&middot;RfA) 20:08, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Hegardt

 * Tagged as a speedy, reason given was "non-notable family", which is not one of the speedy delete criteria. Howver This page does not look to me like a very useful addition to wikipedia, and the notability is at best doubtful IMO. Weak delete. DES (talk) 06:55, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 *  Delete . Even if the family were notable, it would be unusual to have a page named for them (note that Kennedy, for example, is just a disambiguation page). Since the only claim to notability relates to Christian Bernhard Hegardt ("a diplomat and undersecretary of state, was raised to the nobility in May 11, 1818") the article should be named Christian Hegardt.... if he could be considered suitably notable, which seems doubtful. TheMadBaron 07:21, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable because the family is of verifiable Swedish nobility. See De la Gardie (linked to from List of Swedish noble families). --Anetode 08:05, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment - there are nearly 3,000 families on the List of Swedish noble families - should we have articles on all of them? Is everyone in Sweden notable? TheMadBaron 08:47, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The Hegardts, like the De la Gardies, include notable members. Christian Bernhard Hegardt was reputedly the undersecretary of state. --Anetode 08:49, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * That's one notable member.... can you name another? TheMadBaron 08:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Not being able to decipher the google hits for "Josias Hegardt" (probably genealogical references), no. However, as you suggested, the article could be rearranged to be about Christian Hegardt. (By the way: Kennedy family :-) ). --Anetode 09:22, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Fair point.... TheMadBaron 09:24, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. The family has been considered significant enough for there to be an article about it in Svenskt biografiskt lexikon, the Swedish equivalent of the Dictionary of National Biography. Josias Hegardt (merchant and industrialist, Mayor of Malmö, and Member of the Riksdag) and Peter Hegardt (20th century military) each have fuller biographical articles of their own. There is nothing unusual with articles on families in general reference works. Many (perhaps most) of the 3,000 noble families cited above need to be looked-up in specialized genealogical works, but I think the ones represented in Svenskt biografiskt lexikon deserve inclusion in Wikipedia as well. Uppland 20:16, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Uppland. -- Rune Welsh | &tau;&alpha;&lambda;&kappa; | Esperanza  21:15, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, and expand to include biogs uncovered by Uppland. TheMadBaron 09:29, 24 October 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.