Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heidelberg Historical Society


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The result was no consensus. There's clearly no consensus to delete this article. Discussion of merge proposals can continue on the article talk page.  A  Train talk 08:47, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Heidelberg Historical Society

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local organization, with only local references, almost all from  its own site or  its own publication. Most of the information is more appropriate for an organization web site than an encyclopedia  DGG ( talk ) 04:03, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
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 * Merge and redirect after a bit of a trim and better referencing, etc., to Heidelberg#Culture and history or similar section. Not notable in its own right but is notable in the local community context of Heidelberg. A fifty year institution is significant and notable within its community and deserves appropriate documentation in Wikipedia, but it does not seem notable in its own right.  I would expect it to be likely search term. Aoziwe (talk) 11:09, 19 May 2018 (UTC) *have amended above wikilink so it goes to Heidelberg, Victoria. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:29, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Article is by a very new WP:SPA, but I would not want us to be WP:BITEY  I would like to encourage a member of a historical society to become a permanent editor of Wikipedia...  Aoziwe (talk) 11:27, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems notable to me; also what Aoziwe said. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 04:50, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment, nominator (who i have a lot of respect for, love ya :)), states HHS is a "local organisation", not in itself a reason for deletion, even "only local references" may not necessarily be a problem depending on the refs - independent and not "run of mill" is paramount, unfortunately this article's references mostly arent (this may reflect the newness of the article creator). that said, it does seem to be the go to group for anything historically heidelberg ie. in the Heidelberg Leader (oh no, a local paper!:)) "Heidelberg History Society collates memorabilia to celebrate 80 years since the City of Heidelberg was gazetted", "Airlie Aged Care in Ivanhoe under threat from developer - Friends of Banyule and the Heidelberg Historical Society are also outraged and want the building preserved." a snip, "Caerleon Homestead in Eaglemont Demolished to Make Way For Multistorey Townhouses" another snip, but have been unable to find anything significant/indepth/independent that discusses the HHS itself, do agree with that the Heidelberg, Victoria article should definitely have words on HHS. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:20, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, perhaps draftify it awaiting better references?  DGG ( talk ) 06:51, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * yep, agree. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:21, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks everyone for suggestions - all very helpful for this new contributor. The page was started at an event in Melbourne that aimed to increase the number of museums in Victoria that have their own page in Wikipedia. I obviously chose a less-than-easy candidate! I am working on improvements to the Heidelberg Hist Soc page, hoping that it may survive, and will add something asap to the Heidelberg page. There's a good lesson in all this for small local organisations - that they need to find ways to attract published 3rd-party attention; not just self-publish. I have just now added a sentence about the Society's activity in heritage advocacy - thanks to Coolabahapple for the links. Maddy8 (talk) 01:17, 22 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment -- I do not know, but another option might be to repurpose it as an article on Old Heidelberg Court House. WE commonly have articles on museums and similar preserved buildings that are open to the public as tourist attractions.  The activities as a histrocial society are probably NN (like many local historical societies).  Peterkingiron (talk) 10:21, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep This is not just a tiny local organisation, Heidelberg is a significant part of the city of Melbourne. is from a major metropolitan newspaper, and I do see several book mentions as well. So it looks like notability is provable. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:41, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


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