Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heiko Julien


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 03:11, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Heiko Julien

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This article about a doubtfully-notable poet has been attracting BLP violations and vandalism since at least 2018. There are only two possible RS in the article. The first, the Daily Beast article, simply aggregates and repeats a bunch of online accusations of illegal behavior that have never been tested in any legal forum and also is very dubious in its identification of the article subject. Its use without qualification certainly violates WP:BLPCRIME and even with attribution shouldn't be used to support the assertions being made. The second, the Brooklyn Rail article, is an interview about his poetry. The book of poetry he authored was printed by a very small publisher and even granting the Brooklyn Rail interview and the non-RS reviews, attracted almost no attention. According to WorldCat, it is available in all of 10 libraries and from its Amazon listing appears to be out of print already so its impact on the reading public is also doubtful. TL;DR: This is a vandal-bait article about a subject that does not pass WP:GNG and whose notability under any applicable SNG is slim to none. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Comment there are two separate issues in this nomination. The matter of the page's repeated vandalism, and the identification of the individual who's been accused of criminal behaviour, is not something that can be dealt with by an AfD discussion. I share the nominator's alarm, and if the outcome of this debate is to !keep, then the page needs to be protected from ongoing vandalism - and several edits in its history need to be redacted. As to the separate issue of whether the subject meets GNG, I agree that the page should be deleted as it clearly falls short of WP:NCREATIVE. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 17:58, 7 April 2020 (UTC)


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