Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heinz Jürgens (SS officer)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  06:25, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Heinz Jürgens (SS officer)

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Subject fails WP:GNG: significant RS coverage cannot be found; also fails WP:SOLDIER as the award is in dispute: according to the research by Veit Scherzer: "nomination never signed" and "presentation lacks legal justification". The coverage that comes us is from WP:QS author Gordon Williamson (writer). The subject does not have a de.wiki article.

The topic of the notability of Knight's Cross winners has been extensively discussed here: Notability in Knight's Cross Holder Articles; the summary in this subsection (Part 3). This article does not meet the low bar of WP:Soldier for WWII Germany, as the award is questionable, however, PROD has been declined on the grounds that this needs AfD. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:10, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:21, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:21, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:21, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:25, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

• Keep – there is a significant interest in Knights Cross recipients of all levels. And not just in Argentina. Engleham (talk) 22:32, 17 August 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete The good news is, we can get refunded should Wikpedians become able to track down citations to back up the Knight's Cross claims once this de-Nazification effort has ended. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 00:35, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  19:39, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per Chris Troutman. No reliable sources to back up the claim to notability. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:58, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete -- With 7321 awards and the majority of holders being a redlink, I do not think we should allow these articles. UK was (is) much more sparing in its awards of Victoria Cross, which may be the basis of this one.  Certainly we cannot keep such articles unless they have details of the citation.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:27, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Seems like more Nazification. If the award was never signed, then it doesn't count for much. Also fails general notability. I've also checked google.de and haven't' found anything worthwhile. Indy beetle (talk) 19:37, 25 August 2016 (UTC)


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