Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heisei (novel)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Joan Francés Blanc. I'm closing this as a redirect to the author even thought that article is also the subject of an AFD. It still seems like the best solution here and ATD. Liz Read! Talk! 06:38, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Heisei (novel)

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Non-notable and fails WP:GNG and WP:NBOOK. Current refs are obviously inadequate, ref 1 is a WordPress blog (non-reliable), whereas refs 2, 3, and 4 are all different versions of this book (non-independent). The original version translated is no better, WP:BEFORE search finds no refs that could be RS and SIGCOV; I will note there are lots of books of similar names but by different authors; see 1, 2, 3, but they obviously aren't the same with this book, which seems to be non-notable. Though, it's mentioned in Joan Francés Blanc, though these refs are books that seem to trivially list this book on one page, so IMHO, a redirect there would be the best idea. Update: IMHO redirecting/merging would be a great option still. I'm assuming that the Le Setmana ref is this, which might be reliable (ref 2), though I'm unsure. But, the author also wrote this very positive piece. The ref from Avui seems to be definitely RS that is SIGCOV, but the notability is still iffy. VickKiang 11:35, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm adding some references to articles. Best regards. --— J. F. B. (me´n parlar) 09:55, 19 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Literature.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:16, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:52, 26 September 2022 (UTC) Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.. Best regards. --— J. F. B. (me´n parlar) 11:51, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Joan Francés Blanc or Delete. No improvements to the article, no evidence of how this meets NBOOK/GNG. At best, redirect to the article about the author, but I am concerned about the sources, which don't lend themselves to easy verification. I am worried about possible hoaxes/OR here.
 * Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:09, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * While this is definitely not a hoax, the article falls under Notability (books) as the Wikipedian JFB is also the author of the book. VickKiang 09:30, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * And the author of that article? WP:COI looms... Leaning towards redirect or delete then, as this a low quality promotional article about one's own work. Not cool. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 15:00, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * You see,, this was not written for promotion. Just to add a bit of knowledge. Face-smile.svg Hello Articles for deletion, Jfblanc has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!


 * Redirect to Joan Francés Blanc or Delete. It's really not a question of if this article should be kept but more should it be redirected, deleted, or merged. I tried to find other sources to help fix this article and I wasn't able to find anything useful.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 12:11, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment  The article for the author is already AfDed, so if it is kept, maybe a redirect is suitable, but otherwise a delete is better. The author has written about websites that reviewed his books, see here. This leads me to doubt that the quality of ref 2 and ref 3, and leads to me concurring with Piotrus that this article is probably self-promotional. VickKiang 21:49, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah you raise a really good point and I agree that your plan is the best direction forward.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 21:54, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Right, redirect if this is closed and the other one is not deleted yet, delete if the other one ges deleted first. And yes, there may be a walled garden / COI problem here (as in, reviews may not be intependent but by collegues from the same very small academic field, exchanging favors). I am not sure what sources cited in the article are reviews, but if they are identified, we need to discuss whether they are reliable academic or otherwise outlets. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:36, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.