Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helen Barnett Diserens


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The result was redirect to Deodorant. Consensus that there is insufficient coverage for a separate article, but a redirect to Deodorant where she is now mentioned is supported. Davewild (talk) 18:10, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Helen Barnett Diserens

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Wow, the creator of underarm deodrant. Fails WP:1E, WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:00, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep She recieved notice at death from the New York Times. She was a significant advancer in chemistry and the article should be kept.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:38, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 18:19, 10 June 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: The article indicates that she invented the roll-on mechanism, not the product (Ban, which was still sold through the 1970's). At the same time, this actually is the sort of information that likely is encyclopedic. Given the fact that the present article is a fairly slavish recreation of an obit. format, if this is all that anyone can say, then it would be a merge/redirect. I suspect, though, that there is more to say. I hope that it's found. Otherwise, there would need to be a merge of relevant information at a couple of articles (for the products she was an innovator on). (By no means should there be a flat "delete." Female engineers and business women are under-documented already.) Hithladaeus (talk) 18:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge to deodorant - unfortunately I don't see the required coverage necessary. She's mentioned a lot for her invention, but no significant coverage of her. FYI, The NY Times obituary was a paid death notice and not actual reporting. —Мандичка YO 😜 19:20, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Deodorant, where I've replaced some marketing exec claimed as the inventor with her name. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:19, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Thank you for doing that. From the 1940's to the 1980's, American corporations did basic research, and there were women and African American inventors/developers whose contributions are hard to disentangle. (Famously, the man who invented ibuprofen got a watch for his work.) Not every one of these was Bell Labs or Kodak's Eastman labs, so it's cool that we've rescued easily-missed information. Hithladaeus (talk) 00:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I would love to keep this article, but just cannot at the moment find enough sources. I did add a reference to the NYT article of 1952 when Ban Roll-on was a WOW product. I also added that to the Deodorant page, and have a few more to add to that. If we redirect, then at least there is a starting point if more info is discovered. LaMona (talk) 04:21, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:29, 17 June 2015 (UTC)


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