Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helen M. Radics


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The article was indeed previously speedy deleted twice, as Csidaranoli should be perfectly aware of, since they were the creator, and they got both notices on their talk page.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:14, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Helen M. Radics

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Biography of a self-published cookbook author who does not meet WP:AUTHOR. The claims to notability are that she has been "featured" in newspaper articles and on television; however, there are no sources that actually back up these claims. The existing external sources are reviews of her books in local newspapers. There is also a Hungarian-language source from the Hungarian "Life" website (which seems to be the same as the "Life Network" mentioned in the article) - this may very well be a good source but it seems to be the only one, and so it does not meet WP:GNG. I believe that the main contributor to the article (who has a COI) has, in all good faith, interpreted the small number of newspaper reviews rather liberally as being "featured". As for the CTV News mention, all I can find in the way of verification is this. There is also no source for the claim that the person has been noted by the Hungarian National Tourism Board, and when I try to find such sources all I can find are blurbs written by the author herself in many places. bonadea contributions talk 08:26, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment New sources have appeared in the article - I don't have the time to evaluate them right now. Note also that there's been canvassing on an external blog to "vote to delete the article" - though I'm not seeing hordes of people coming here from there, to be frank. --bonadea contributions talk 09:07, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Addendum to the above: Unfortunately I cannot see that the added sources support the claim of notability. --bonadea contributions talk 18:07, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your reply on your talk page. I'm sorry but I wasn't aware that I was supposed to write here instead. I appreciate you placing a note about a "non-vote" on this article's faith. I have attempted to place additional links in the article however for some reason they came up as banned links by Wikipedia so I needed to remove them in order to save the page.

I have also attempted to place here several links including the links to verify the interviews with Life Network/ Life Magazine and CTV news however for some reason whenever I attempt to save this page it notifies me that these links are on Wikipedia's Black List. I am completely lost. I am not sure how else to verify these interviewed, cooking segments, cooking show and other notability related info. Helen M. Radics was featured on CTV twice, also done cooking segments and was interviewed by Life Network/Life Magazine twice (Hungary) and was the celebrity team leader for the Christmas special of Life Network. This is an annual event and is an honor to be chosen. I can only verify these privately by email as to copyright reasons and due to Wikipedia blacklisting these sources.

I'm sorry but I don't really know what else to include as all of the CTV interviews as mentioned above are the copyright protected video's of CTV News. I can only send them to you perhaps privately to verify that they actually took place. Please let me know what else I can do.

Thank you for your time and assistance.

Sincerely

(Csidaranoli (talk) 20:11, 24 March 2013 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csidaranoli (talk • contribs) 20:07, 24 March 2013 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:59, 30 March 2013 (UTC)




 * Comment Well, there is not much discussion here - I still don't believe that notability is shown, especially since there are apparently no independent sources, as noted above. There is no reason to doubt the fact that Radics was intrviewed on CTV News, but a lot of people are interviewed on TV; CTV News is a specialty channel with limited coverage, and the fact that Radics is not found on their website, despite her being interviewed by them, seems (to me) indicative of a lack of notability. However, if there are no other editors weighing in the article will be kept as a lack of consensus, and I shan't lose any sleep over that. --bonadea contributions talk 11:41, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 05:24, 6 April 2013 (UTC)



Hello I agree not much discussion, but on the actual "talk" page at the article site an unfair competitor of Helen M. Radics has written an entire tirade to slander the author. She did not actually sign her name as it could be used against her to lay defamatory libel (criminal charges) under the Criminal Code of Canada. Last year this person's account has been suspended due to her constantly vandalizing this actual article. I'd like to know how would it be possible to prevent any further libelous postings by this individual and also how to remove her comments on that "talk" page. Thank you for your help Csidaranoli (talk) 21:44, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Previously speedily deleted; Self-published cookbook author with no WP:RS third party sources to establish WP:BIO or WP:GNG notability. Likely WP:COI creator.  OhNo itsJamie  Talk 23:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

You are mistaken!!! This article has NEVER BEEN Deleted. I don't know where you are getting this information, but please check your facts. The person who has been libeling Helen M. Radics has been deleted from Wikipedia and NOT Helen M. Radics. I would like to avoid any sort of confusion here. I like you to only post the facts here please. Thank you, have a nice day. Csidaranoli (talk) 03:27, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, the article has been deleted before, several times. Here's the deletion log for Helen M. Radics, and here's the deletion log for Helen Marta Radics. — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 03:32, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry but the article was never deleted. Photos uploaded into the article have been deleted but the article has never been. I don't know where you are seeing this information but it is wrong. I would know if it would have been deleted, after all I created the article I would have noticed if I would have been required to re-create this article multiple times. The photos have been deleted by Wikipedia because I didn't know how to add them to the article and not for any other reason, but that doesn't mean that the article has ever been deleted. I couldn't see anything on the deletion log page. Csidaranoli (talk) 00:02, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
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