Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helen Melville Smith


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The result was   delete per WP:BIO, failure to verify with good citations. Bearian (talk) 20:19, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Helen Melville Smith

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Subject is the daughter of a famous person, but asserts no notability herself. As such it fails WP:BIO, particularly this part, which succinctly states "Being related to a notable person confers no degree of notability upon that person". OBM | blah blah blah 07:16, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. No indication of notability. —SlamDiego&#8592;T 08:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. She is the subject of this offline reference which might be helpful: The Titanic Commutator, published by the Titanic Historical Society. Volume 17, number 2, 1993, The Captain's Daughter Helen Melville Russell-Cooke "Mel" Russell-Cooke 1898-1973. By John Pladdys. http://www.titanichistoricalsociety.org/store/tek9.asp?pg=products&specific=jpiofon0 Another link (possibly not a reliable source, though) is http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/helen-melville-smith.html Contradictory information about her is provided at http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-biography/edward-john-smith.html I can't find anything at Google News, though as Helen Melville Russell-Cooke. or as Helen Melville Smith. --Eastmain (talk) 17:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think the articles in The Titanic Commutator (published by the Titanic Historical Society) and the online material about her together indicate enough public interest in her to satisfy the general notability guideline and make her notable. --Eastmain (talk) 17:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC) I should mention, though, that I also searched the British Library's catalogue and the Library of Congress catalogue and couldn't find anything by or about here at either library. --Eastmain (talk) 17:48, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Her two contradictory mentions in encyclopedia titanica agree on one thing - she didn't do anything notable. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:23, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Eastmain has tried his best to find notablity but "couldn't find anything by or about her". I think this shows that she fails current notabiliy rules; the article should be deleted doktorb wordsdeeds 17:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete despite much searching the is nothing more out there than she is the daughter of. That doesn't meet the requirements of WP:BIO. Nuttah (talk) 16:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


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