Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helen Woodrow Bones


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The result was keep. Michig (talk) 07:15, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Helen Woodrow Bones

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Subject was the U.S President Woodrow Wilson's first coursin and worked in White House social entertaining event. Fails Credible claim of significance and notability is not inherited  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:16, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
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By Phyllis Lee Levin, First Ladies: A Biographical Dictionary By Dorothy Schneider, Carl J. Schneider, "Brother Woodrow": A Memoir of Woodrow Wilson by Stockton Axson, Wilson, Volume IV: Confusions and Crises, 1915-1916 By Woodrow Wilson, Woodrow Wilson by Hecksher, Ellen Axson Wilson: first lady between two worlds by Frances Wright Saundersand so on. There is enough discussion of Helen Bones in these secondary sources, not just passing mentions, to justify a page on her as she passes WP:GNG Ross-c (talk) 08:21, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Helen Bones is discussed in a number of books such as: Edith and Woodrow: The Wilson White House
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 * Keep and improve. Many references describe her role in the Wilson administration. This webpage includes an extensive biography of Bones and describes her role after the death of Ellen Axson Wilson as "surrogate First Lady," saying "In the sixteen month period between the death of his first wife and his remarriage to his second wife, the efforts of the President’s cousin ('i.e. Bones') on his behalf were publicly more obscure than that of his daughter. This interim period nevertheless underlines the usually multiple roles assumed by a First Lady who is the president’s wife. Helen Bones assumed the more private roles of confidante and caretaker for her widowed cousin, while Margaret Wilson took on the public ones of hostess and civic leader." She played a much more important role in the life of the Wilson family than a random party-hopping first cousin, which the article should be improved to describe. HouseOfChange (talk) 02:56, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep lots of coverage out there! Certainly meets GNG.96.127.243.251 (talk) 06:23, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: an acceptable stub on a historical figure. Sufficient independent coverage to justify a page at this time. K.e.coffman (talk) 07:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep seen lots of coverage found. Emily Khine (talk) 12:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep - gets a lot of great notable Ghits. There's definitley room for improvement, but this is a clear WP:GNG and WP:NBIO pass. Also, first ladies of the United States presidency are always presumed notable - dunno about acting first ladies, but she did a very notable role while acting as First Lady, so I'd say that would apply here. Kirbanzo (talk) 01:01, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Thanks to all the improvements, obviously notable.--Ipigott (talk) 12:14, 22 August 2018 (UTC)


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