Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helena Anita Derner


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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 18:03, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Helena Anita Derner

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Non-notable mayor of a village with a population of 781. red dogsix (talk) 04:13, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:POLITICIAN. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  05:58, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Completely NN. Mayor of a village that doesn't even have municipality status in its own right. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:46, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep To (talk) it's a solectwo simply meaning a locality with a municipalized government while niesoleckie means an unincorporated locality and this person is an actual politician elected by a few hundred people. That is more than Mr. Potato Head in Boise or the monkey in Rio did those cities' mayoral/municipal elections   .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schmallenberger (talk • contribs) 19:09, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - My guess is the two examples you cited had substantial news coverage and adequate references to support notability. Being voted for by a few hundred people does not establish the individual as notable politician.   red dogsix (talk) 19:50, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I am still unclear what examples are being cited. Although other stuff exists is a horrible argument, but here I do not see it argued at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:01, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * delete very minor nonnotable functionary. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:11, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not extend an automatic presumption of notability to every person who was ever mayor of any place at all — we accept mayors of major cities as notable, but not mayors of small villages with populations in the mere hundreds. The latter kind can still get into Wikipedia if the sourcing and substance are really on point, but does not get a "keep because mayor" freebie just because she exists. And regardless of the place's size, a mayor always has to be sourced to media coverage which fulfills the demands of WP:GNG, and never gets to keep an article that rests exclusively on primary source verification from the town's own website (which is the only kind of sourcing that's been shown in this instance.) And for the record, while Boise's potato and Rio's monkey are mentioned in the articles where those things are relevant to mention, neither of them actually has a standalone article about them as an independent topic in their own right — so they're entirely irrelevant to the question of whether this article should exist or not, because they don't exist as articles either. Her name can be mentioned, unlinked, in Kleszczów, Silesian Voivodeship, but there's not enough substance, and no sourcing, here to earn her a standalone biography about her. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 19:21, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete mayor of a place with under 1000 people. No other sources to suggest anything even approaching notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:59, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


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