Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helena Eldrup


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Dusti*Let's talk!* 02:59, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Helena Eldrup

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A successful high school principal. Clearly important to the school. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACADEMIC.  Onel 5969  TT me 10:54, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment: Being an IP, I assume I can't vote, but I hope I can comment. I am from Sweden, so please excuse any spelling mistakes I may make. The Kjellbergska flickskolan is counted as one of the "First Five" pioneer secondary educational schools for women in Sweden, and Helena Eldrup was essentially given the task to be its founder and organiser, beside being its first principal. Being an individual from the history of a small country, it is perhaps not strange if she is not yet mentioned in international sources, even if she was an important person from that country's history (and even in Sweden, the history of women's education has not been given much coverage until very recently, despite its importance); but Wikipedia does allow foreign language references, as far as I understand, and without them, it would be hard to expand international knowledge about subject that are notable, but not yet covered in English language reference books.--92.35.227.48 (talk) 11:32, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Principal of a very notable school at a time when there were few significant girls' schools in the world. Definitely notable. Meets WP:NACADEMIC #6. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:55, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment The Fredberg reference in the article does verify the dates of her tenure. I am leaning towards Keep on the additional basis of WP:NONENG, WP:SOURCEACCESS, WP:WORLDVIEW and WP:AGF for the Kullgren reference and the other references at the Swedish Wikipedia version. 24.151.50.175 (talk) 15:07, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment See also Therese Kamph, Eldrup's successor as principal of Kjellbergska flickskolan, nominated for deletion on 26 March, where similar considerations will apply.TSventon (talk) 15:39, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not just a principal, but also a pioneer in that she built the school up from its founding. /Julle (talk) 11:15, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep historically significant. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 18:25, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - per WP:GNG and per sources.BabbaQ (talk) 21:50, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I was leaning towards delete, but will not oppose the emerging consensus. I can see that as a pioneer of women's education and founding principal of a school, there is an argument that she is notable.  I would be reluctant to encourage bios of head teachers to be allowed as a matter of course.  There is no objection to foreign language references, though English ones are of course preferable, if available.  I would give considerable weight to the view of the IP, even though it is not formally a vote.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:07, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. First principal of a notable school. The article needs more sources: references to Heckscher and Hedin in Therese Kamph are also relevant to Eldrup. TSventon (talk) 13:06, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I have added some more sources. I haven't added many inline citations - even for the online sources for which more than a snippet is visible, it really needs someone who reads Swedish. There are sufficient sources to show significant coverage over an extended period of time. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:01, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


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