Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hell's Lovers


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Hell's Lovers

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The only reliable source provided about this group is a report from the Wisconsin Department of Justice which lists them as a group of "ten to fifteen members and ten to fifteen associates" involved in cocaine trafficking. All other sources are motorcycle gang blogs memorializing the passing of the group's founder. No real notability here. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:02, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep A club with 1500 members seems to be notable. If this information is a hoax then delete.Kitfoxxe (talk) 14:28, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know that there is a line in the sand that says a club with x members is notable while one with x-1 members is not, but if there is, I imagine it is set somewhere higher than 1500. However, notability is not conferred by size, but by significant coverage in reliable sources.  I don't see that for this club.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


 * It was explained to me this weekend that the Hell's Lovers MC does not want thier name on the net. Please remove this article as soon as you can.
 * Laptop 1%er (talk) 12:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, whether the group wants an article or not is quite irrelevant. If the community decides the article should stay, it can stay.  However, as no other editors have made any significant contributions to the article, this may well qualify under WP:CSD.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 10:38, 17 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep I've added a couple news stories from the Chicago Tribune which are primarily about the Hell's Lovers, as per WP:ORG. One of the stories notes that this was one of the first multi-ethnic motorcycle gangs in Chicago, which is notable, particularly since racial segregation and inter-racial strife has historically been a significant factor in the history of these groups. --Dbratland (talk) 02:15, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:01, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:18, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep meets WP:CLUB. Spatulli (talk) 01:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
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