Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hellen Dausen


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The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Hellen Dausen

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Person is not yet notable, with no guarantee that her winning Miss Tanzania will secure her permanent notability. As WP:NOTE states: "notability is not temporary", so her possibly temporary fame does not make her notable. Mmyers1976 (talk) 15:07, 27 April 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * CommentI don't think it means that. I think it means that once something is notable that status does not cease to exist over time. That said she has yet to win a major beauty pagent.Slatersteven (talk) 15:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * To clarify my use of "notability is not temporary": If Miss Dausen does not win Miss Universe, does not do anything else significant with her life, will she be notable in 5 years? No. Therefore, since notability is not temporary, she obviously cannot be notable today. When WP:NOTE discusses the issue of notability not being temporary, it specifically deals with being notable for only one specific event: "...it takes more than just a short burst of news reports about a single event or topic to constitute sufficient evidence of notability – particularly for living individuals known for one event..." This section on noteability not being temporary later says "similarly an existing topic might be deleted if a later review of evidence suggests that the topic did not actually achieve notability. This can sometimes happen when notability was not discussed earlier in its history or was discussed but there was no clear consensus; when there was a flurry of media reports but it has since become clear the topic was not notable." Obviously this is saying it is preferable to discuss notability early on, as we are doing here. This is why the WP:NOTE section on notability not being temporary is germane here.Mmyers1976 (talk) 16:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


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 * Delete I see 0 news hits. Doesn't look notable to me. David V Houston (talk) 13:18, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
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