Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helmut Hoffer von Ankershoffen


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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 16:24, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Helmut Hoffer von Ankershoffen

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Certainly questionably notable and improvable as I'm simply not gathering how this is keepable and the best my searches found was only this, this, this and this. The author's name "helmuthva" suggests it may be the subject himself and it's also not surprising this article hasn't changed since then. Notifying tagger and also  who lists to be notified of these subject AfDs. SwisterTwister  talk  07:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Interesting The article on his company was deleted at the deWP in 2008 at de:Wikipedia:Löschkandidaten/10._Dezember_2008. The discussion indicated they felt the company never was notable--that its product was not major, and that they had no major market share. I can not see what the referencing was there, but in 2008 that wasn't the major factor in their deletion discussions. (it remains in the enWP--I'm lve listed it for discussion at  In the discussion, it was suggested that it would make more sense to have an article on the founder  if he was also the developer of the software.  I do not know if they ever had one,   but there's no article on him at present.   The material here after 2008 was obviously not in their article at the time, His more recent company,  WeTab,  has an unchallenged article discussing the firm and the product in both the en and deWP. The one in the deWP is much more detailed --reasonably enough, since it is/was a German company and product. Hoffer is discussed briefly in that article in the history section,  "One of the two managing directors, Helmut Hoffer von Ankershoffen, .. was forced to resign on October 4 ...  after it became known that he had written positive reviews under a false name at Amazon.com   [ref. to the same Spiegel article as here]" That ref --and discussion of the matter, and other refs on it -- are not in our article on [[WeTab, but could reasonably be added there. I have no firm opinion.  DGG ( talk ) 19:22, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 03:10, 28 November 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, clpo13(talk) 19:20, 5 December 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Onel 5969  TT me 13:18, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete -- triple relist needs some sort of opinion: the article does not express much in the way of claims to notability beyond creating Germany's first search engine (which doesn't seem to have sources indicating that this was important to Germany) or founding companies that may or may not be notable in itself. It's a hard choice, and I could imagine going a different way in a different time with a slightly differently written article or a new source or two; but this AfD has gone on for nearly a month, so it'd be good to have a decision one way or another, and this is more of my gut feeling from similarity to other AfDs than on strong policy. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 06:10, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per nom and MSC. In addition, the lack of interest does not bode well for this article being improved at any point in the near future to a level which meets notability criteria.  Onel 5969  TT me 14:19, 19 December 2015 (UTC)


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