Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helvetium


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Astatine. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 03:08, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Helvetium

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Not enough reliable and independent sources nor a content to exist as a seperated article. It'd be better and more suitable to merge with astatine. Nanahuatl (talk) 08:09, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:16, 19 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect per nom. This thing is mentioned already in Astatine, so merging would functionally just be redirection. Double sharp (talk) 08:20, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * So why didn't you just do that? It would have taken fewer edits to merge than nominating at AFD, and would have been done by now. Uncle G (talk) 08:26, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't need to start an AfD if all you want to do is redirect the page. Tercer (talk) 09:28, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Astatine per nom. Many of the articles in Category:Misidentified chemical elements may fail this scrutiny as well. And I think an RfC on this decided that potentially controversial redirects should be sent to AfD, but this does not meet that criterion. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 14:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Astatine as others have suggested. This could probably have been done without any discussion beforehand, though the standards that Wikipedia insiders have for what should be discussed where can be pretty opaque. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 17:00, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * As the nominator, I gotta declare that I didn't know we shouldn't nominate articles for deletion for redirecting/merging. My idea was "what if some users say to keep it and we keep?". Nanahuatl (talk) 00:50, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The point is that merges and redirects are easily reversible, but a deletion is not. Hence a merge/redirect can be done WP:BOLDly, or with a discussion in the article's talk page, while a deletion needs to be discussed more carefully. Tercer (talk) 07:40, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * But deletion can be (and is, when the deletion was via prod) also easily reversible. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * A PROD can also be done without discussion, precisely because it is easily reversible. A deletion from AfD requires discussion because it is not easily reversible; only admins can reverse it, and they won't do it without a good reason. Also, when an AfD closes with little discussion the admins often do a WP:SOFTDELETE instead, that anyone can reverse. Tercer (talk) 08:45, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Astatine. This is literally in the article and probably could be without any discussion. Keresluna (talk) 15:35, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.