Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Augustus Pearson Torrey


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The result was   keep. -- Cirt (talk) 07:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Henry Augustus Pearson Torrey

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Professor that does not give any evidence of notability Yaksar (let's chat) 05:49, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Profiled in the Journal Aesthetic Education in 1979. Several other reliable sources available as well, which discuss how he influenced John Dewey. Cullen328 (talk) 05:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you have any info on what it actually says in this profile, or even better a cite for it and any notable information it could provide? Also, what are these reliable sources?--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Dewey in College 1875-79 by Robert L. McCaul, The School Review, Vol 7 No 4, Winter 1962, University of Chicago Press. Cullen328 (talk) 21:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * H.A.P. Torrey & John Dewey: Teacher & Pupil by Lewis S. Feuer, American Quarterly, Vol 10, No 1, Spring, 1958, Johns Hopkins University Press. 21 page article, first page visible online, quotes Dewey' autobiography praising and critiquing Torrey. Cullen328 (talk) 21:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I suspect that what is being referred to is Shields, Allan (1979) "Joseph Torrey (1789-1867): America's First Professor of Aesthetics" Journal Aesthetic Education 13:2. Unfortunately, Joseph Torrey was H.A.P. Torrey's uncle. The article does refer to H.A.P. Torrey as Josephy Torry's successor at the university, where H.A.P. Torrey also taught aesthetics (although I'm not sure that it was known as that at the time). There are better sources, though, such as Feuer's article currently listed as a source. - Bilby (talk) 09:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep as the major teacher of John Dewey, Torrey is notable. Cullen328 if you could, incorporating inforation from that article in the Journal Aesthtic Education would be helpful.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:08, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * A cite that he was a major teacher of Dewey who had a substantial and noticeable impact on him would certainly increase this article's credibility. I have not, however, been able to find any real sources that have described him in any depth yet, however.--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:15, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The cited source is an article entirely about the relationship between Dewey and Torrey. It is real, and it is obtrainable online at least with access to JSTOR.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * If the article can demonstrably use the information from this text to show significance beyond "he was his teacher," I'd probably be willing to retract this AfD. Having a source that may say he's important does not particularly matter unless this important info is actually in the article. At the moment, basically all of the article is simply biographical and does not allude to the notability. If the section on his teaching of Dewey can be expanded this article may very well meet the standards.--Yaksar (let's chat) 16:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


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 * Keep - both the Fleur (1958) and the Dykhuizen (1959) papers provide substantial coverage Torrey, and there seems to be quite a few other sources to build on. It seems he was a significant influence in Dewey's career and early philosophy. - Bilby (talk) 01:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Very clear keep in view of Dewey. Strange nomination. Xxanthippe (talk) 05:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC).
 * Keep. As well as the nontrivial coverage of him already cited in the article, the Feuer paper describes nontrivial coverage of him in Dewey's own autobiography. This seems enough for WP:GNG to me. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.