Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Barnard School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to City School District of New Rochelle. ff m  23:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Henry Barnard School

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Article about a school (prekindergarten to grade 2) that is not notable. Claim of notability in the article is "recognized as a Sharing Success Program by the State of New York," but the "recognition" is only that the school is listed in a booklet as an example of a school that utilizes a special program created outside the state of New York. Some contents of this article could be merged into City School District of New Rochelle. In that school district article, details about individual elementary schools have been deleted (repeatedly) in the past for copyvio and/or advertising-like and/or extremely trivial and/or contributions of a banned user, but that history would not bar inclusion of reliably sourced nontrivial, nonpromotional content. Orlady (talk) 18:43, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.   —Orlady (talk) 18:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —Orlady (talk) 18:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per well-reasoned nom. We66er (talk) 23:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - really? Sorry, it seems a confused nomination to me - if the article is deleted then content cannot be merged for GFDL reasons. I agree that the school doesn't merit a separate page but that is a reason for merge not deletion. The problems that the nominator has had with the school district page are an editorial matter and not relevant to the fate of the content of this article. TerriersFan (talk) 01:01, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - The history is relevant because I believe that the contributor reasoned that separate articles about elementary schools would avoid the fate of the content that has previously been added to (and deleted from) the district article. However, there have been diverse reasons for the deletion of content from the district article (notably, see User:Jvolkblum), and deletion of past contributions does not mean that content is permanently excluded from the district article. Also, recently other articles have been created about elementary schools in this district, then converted to redirects to the school district article, then created again by the original contributor. A discussion here seemed to me to be a productive way to arrive at a consensus regarding the best way to handle this and other New Rochelle elementary school articles that I predict will be created soon. --Orlady (talk) 14:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - but all that will be determined here is the fate of this one article. The broader discussion that you wish should take place at Talk:City School District of New Rochelle. Reading the various talk pages I don't see further wholesale creation of nn elementary school articles since I think that the point has been taken. TerriersFan (talk) 22:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to City School District of New Rochelle per established precedent. I don't see this urge to delete articles where there is a clear target for sourced content to be merged. TerriersFan (talk) 23:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per User:TerriersFan. Any "reliably sourced nontrivial, nonpromotional content" might as well be merged, and the article converted to a redirect, although the amount should probably be kept at a minimum as in Hurst-Euless-Bedford_Independent_School_District --Jh12 (talk) 05:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The Hurst-Euless-Bedford article is not an ideal example. The listing of individual schools in that article consists of external links, contrary to WP:EL. --Orlady (talk) 14:35, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * True, but it's the best school district article we have. It treads the line between both violating WP:EL and WP:NOT and satisfying El, but at least it's relatively well-sourced and organized. And in this context, it highlights unique, non-trivial information about its elementary schools. --Jh12 (talk) 21:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not convinced that's the single best school district article here. Here are two more "pretty good" candidates: Burlington Area School District (sourced, includes reasonable details about the schools; this is my pick for the best one I have found) and Wells-Ogunquit Community School District (the only source seems to be the school district website, but it includes good information about the district in addition to a list of schools that has appropriate details about the schools). --Orlady (talk) 14:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.