Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Barrera


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE.  ·Add§hore·  T alk T o M e ! 15:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Henry Barrera

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Career minor-league player see here. Fails WP:ATHLETE. kelapstick(bainuu) 13:03, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It also looks like he didn't play in 2012. --kelapstick(bainuu) 13:10, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Sources, which are already in the article, establish GNG. The article requires expansion that utilizes those sources, not deletion. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:51, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I disagree, two of the external links are local newspapers from where he went to High School (one about his being drafted, one about a game he pitched in), the Kansas City Star is just saying he got added to the 40-man roster, one is from MLB.com (not independent for notability establishment), the last one is the only thing close, a report on his MRI. For me, this isn't enough to meet the GNG, but that is just my opinion, others opinions will (and do) differ. --kelapstick(bainuu) 16:16, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * MLB.com is independent of MLB, as noted by the disclaimer at the bottom of every MLB.com story: "This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs." Along with the other stories, it provides in depth coverage of the subject. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * So you believe one story at MLB.com based on a procedural move, a story about an injury, and a couple stories from his local paper is enough to meet GNG for Barrera, but you voted "Delete" on Cristian Guerrero (pending AfD) despite the greater amount of coverage of him? (I'm not trying to give Muboshgu a hard time. I'm just trying to figure out his AfD standards. Also, I wish there was a lot more attention paid to newly created pages, which would probably result in us having fewer AfD battles. Barrera's page has been here four years. It shouldn't have been here four days if it didn't clearly pass GNG when started.) - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 22:37, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * We can see different cases differently. I explained at that AfD that I felt that article is just short of the line, which is partly for WP:INHERITED reasons, while this is not an overwhelming pass, but just on the passing side of the fence. YMMV. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:05, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Per Muboshgu's explanation and rationale.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:15, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:10, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:10, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Non-notable minor league player. Alex (talk) 19:39, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't think the level of coverage satsifies GNG on this guy. Spanneraol (talk) 22:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 22:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete As much as I dislike voting to delete a page that was probably created in good faith, just about every professional baseball player has gotten at least as much media coverage as the sources listed in this article. If a couple of hometown stories and a couple of stories about procedural moves are enough to satisfy GNG, then 99 percent of MiLB players pass GNG. - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 22:37, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Coverage is coverage. Local coverage counts the same. Saying "99 percent of MiLB players pass GNG" is factually inaccurate based on the number of successful AfDs and PRODs brought on MiLB players who don't have the level of coverage Barrera has. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:03, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * What percentage of MiLB players has never been featured in his hometown newspaper(s) and/or never been mentioned in a MiLB game story, press release or notes column? I doubt it's more than one percent. Whether it's in the player's hometown paper(s), college paper or the papers in the player's MLB and/or MiLB cities, multiple stories and press releases are issued every time a drafted player signs with an MLB team. If this is the new bar for GNG, we shouldn't even bother with these AfDs. Almost every MiLB player, especially those from the U.S., is likely to pass. (Remember, even the worst MiLB players were probably all-stars in their hometown, which means they received years of coverage as high school and/or college athletes before they even got to professional baseball.) - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 09:27, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete the only significant coverage I see of the player is this. Everything else is routine coverage that minor leaguers routinely get, and it seems like his career ended when he hurt his arm, so he unlikely to go back to the Major Leagues. Fails WP:BASEBALL/N, and just falls short on WP:GNG. Secret account 18:07, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
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