Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Hugh Peter Deasy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus to delete. W.marsh 05:58, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Henry Hugh Peter Deasy
This afd nomination was incomplete. The nominator's reasoning was Unremarkable. Listing now. —Crypticbot (operator) 22:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC) Delete Since I nominated the page for deletion, I feel obliged to explain my thinking. The person is listed with three claims to notoriety. 1. Being an author of an exploration book. 2. (As stated on the original page) Being important in founding Rolls-Royce. 3. Being the cousin of Agnes Mary Clerke.
 * Keep I've removed the misleading claims about Rolls Royce. If he wrote a book that is available from Amazon after more than a hundred years he's probably more notable than half the contemporary writers Wikipedia has articles about. He probably took part in Francis Younghusband's invasion of Tibet, which was an important historic event, so I'd like to know more about him. Golfcam 23:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable. Mukadderat 03:52, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep The motor company he founded is actually a blue link (Siddeley-Deasy), which makes it an easy Keep. --kingboyk 12:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable. Nigelthefish 18:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

On the first point. A google search gives a very small number of hits of the book written by a person of this name. The listing on Amazon comes for a review written by a person claiming to be his nephew Hugh Deasy

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00086AKJ2/ref=cm_aya_asin.title/102-1816042-8112154?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155

As can be seen from the listing, there are no copies in print & no sales listed, and it is not available as User:Golfcam claims. It only has the review, the contents of which is:-

"A Google search for Hugh Deasy throws up me or Henry Hugh. So we are the only two famous people rejoicing in this combination of names. My own book, "Grannies and Time Machines", has a totally different subject matter."

An antique book seller is also listed on Yahoo as having a copy:-

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~kaivalya/deasy.htm

This doen't really seem to fit the wikipedia guidelines on authors. Also the reference by User:Golfcam above to Francis Younghusband's invasion of Tibet can be ignored. The book was published in 1901, the invasion of Tibet was in 1903.

On the second point. A person of this name formed a motor company in 1906 called the Deasy Motor Company, but this person had servered all ties with the company by 1909, which was when John Siddeley joined the company (changing the name to Siddeley-Deasy), therefore the later success of this company cannot be in any way attributed to Henry Deasy. The only point that indicates that these where the same person is the desciption of Henry Deasy on John Davenport Siddeley's autobiography on the Rolls-Royce web site (link below) i.e. "A company founded by former Cavalry Officer & Explorer, Henry Deasy".

http://www.rolls-royce.com/history/heritage/offices/coventry_evo1.jsp

Again this doesn't seem to fit any description of real notoriety.

On the third point of being the cousin of Agnes Clerke. Being somebody's cousin has no relervance here. Furhter to this, there is no evidence on any site about this women (who is well documented) that she was related to this person.The Pedant 09:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment I've added as much detail to the page as I could find. I still think it doesn't really note a wikipedia entry. The Pedant 11:14, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.