Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Stickmin


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The result was Delete and salt.  Sandstein  12:45, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Henry Stickmin

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Previously deleted at Articles for deletion/The Henry Stickmin Collection. Surprise, it's still non-notable and fails WP:GNG. Sourcing is lackluster and does not contain significant mentions. It seems this page gets recreated every 2 minutes. WP:SALT yet? ZXCVBNM (TALK) 23:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 23:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete and salt per nom. Nostalgia, unfortunately, does not play towards notability. Seeing how there are zero hits for authored sources in WP:VG/SE and zero reviews on Metacritic, the non-notability is rather apparent. The current state of the article has only two secondary sources, both of which cover the same announcement (á la WP:RUNOFTHEMILL) in which Henry Stickmin occurs only as a WP:PASSING mention. IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 00:58, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep The Henry Stickman Collection is and was very popular, with nearly 20000 reviews on steam, many more than other games with articles. Its relationship with Innersloth and Among Us also give it lots of notability, with Among Us being one of, if not the most popular game currently. It has also been played by popular online creators, such as Markiplier, Jackepticeye and DanTDM, giving it even more attention. It has a metacritic rating too, albiet unreferenced in the article. https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-henry-stickmin-collection I see little reason to delete the article other than it being poorly written. Pladica (talk) 07:03, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Player engagement does not create notability; WP:USERG et al. WP:NVG and WP:GNG have to be met instead; the Steam review count (or lack thereof) is irrelevant.
 * Henry Stickmin needs to be notable on its own; it does *not* inherit its notability from Among Us or Innersloth (see also WP:INHERIT).
 * Fails WP:RS, possibly USERG. Imagine the mess we would have if we created an article for every obscure game any random YouTube channel showcased, especially when we can only rely on these YouTubers as sources.
 * This is simply untrue. The site says, quite clearly, "Metascore: No score yet based on 0 Critic Reviews". IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 12:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Fails WP:RS, possibly USERG. Imagine the mess we would have if we created an article for every obscure game any random YouTube channel showcased, especially when we can only rely on these YouTubers as sources.
 * This is simply untrue. The site says, quite clearly, "Metascore: No score yet based on 0 Critic Reviews". IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 12:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This is simply untrue. The site says, quite clearly, "Metascore: No score yet based on 0 Critic Reviews". IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 12:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This is simply untrue. The site says, quite clearly, "Metascore: No score yet based on 0 Critic Reviews". IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 12:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's an "obscure game" in the slightest, with all the attention it's got. And yes I'm more than aware that YouTube channels don't count as reliable sources, but I think this is an exception when multiple of the largest creators on the platform play it, garnering tens of millions of views. Media sources rarely cover these types of games, even when they receive tons of attention like Henry Stickmin, so I think it's silly that it's expected for one to get such coverage in order for it to be counted as "notable". As for the Metascore, that is my mistake, I thought user scores counted. Pladica (talk) 03:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No, we should not make an exception for games that received increased attention from entertainers. Since we cannot use said entertainers as reliable sources, articles with this precedent would either lack any kind of content or be mostly unverifiable. The latter holds true for this article, which is 90% unsourced. Notability is the bare minimum for a topic; enough information available in reliable secondary sources to ensure that all core points of that topic can be covered *and cited*. Why the media hasn't covered Henry Stickmin (or The Henry Stickmin Collection in particular) is honestly beyond me, especially when compared to the likes of Deeeer Simulator, another popular streamer game that has received at least some coverage. In the unlikely event that Henry Stickmin becomes notable by Wikipedia's terms, it can easily be recreated. Until then, the Henry Stickmin Wiki will likely have to do. IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 13:02, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, hopefully it gets more coverage in the future. Pladica (talk) 22:16, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt, per the actions on The Henry Stickmin Collection. Pahunkat (talk) 13:31, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt per IceWelder and Pahunkat. Namcokid  47  (Contribs) 17:36, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt I love Henry Stickmin, but it's already peaked in August 2020. The fandom is going to shrink and pop in a couple of months tops. At this point we should wait until Puffballs or Innersloth becomes notable enough to get their own articles and mention it in those pages. In the meantime redirect Henry Stickmin to Among Us. 2603:7000:1F00:6B91:8D80:8C1:2267:6D8D (talk) 02:34, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt. I love Henry Stickmin (sound familiar), but this just wont work. People who create this article should focus their attention to Among Us, I guess. Le Panini  [🥪] 03:21, 30 December 2020 (UTC)


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