Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Thomas Arbuthnot (2nd nomination)


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The result was  d elete. - Mailer Diablo 05:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Henry Thomas Arbuthnot

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This is the 2nd nomination for this article, the first was back in November 2005 and the result was no concensus, the AfD can be seen [Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Thomas Arbuthnot here]. Anyway this biography says he was a Major General. I see nothing further that tells me why he was a Major General or for what it was he was notable. I hope someone can come up with some further information and save this particular Arbuthnot - if not delete it. Vintagekits 22:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete I do not see Google results for him other than the family genealogy website and mirrors of the Wikipdeia article. Granted that his era is so pre-internet, the creater of the article might check military histories of the unit he served with or period newspapers to see if he received substantial coverage. Also is there a record of why he received the distinction of CB? Mentioned in despatches for distinction in command in battle? That would help to argue for a Keep. Just not seeing satisfaction of WP:BIO at this point. Edison 01:23, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletions.  -- Carom 01:27, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete As per another Arbuthnot AfD: we can't have a Wikipedia page for every general officer ever. Elrith 01:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I think we perfectly well could (at least for a great many of them), if editors would care to assemble the necessary material to show more specifically what they did. But this article doesn't help DGG 03:47, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as Major Generals and CBs are plentiful, and there is nothing showing why this one is notable. --Dhartung | Talk 08:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Giano 17:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * CB seems to be the very lowest rank within Order of the Bath, and there seem to be hundreds if not thousands of members. Running a small arms factory (Enfield) for a while isn't all that notable in and of itself unless he was somehow responsible for new innovations or something similar. It should be noted that this article is better sourced than some Arbuthnot articles are, but on balance, I'd lean toward a weak delete ++Lar: t/c 18:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment September 20th, 1888 London Gazette says: "Lieutenant-Colonel and Colonel (??) Henry Thomas Arbuthnot, half-pay Royal Artillery retires upon retired pay and compensation, with the honorary rank of Major-General. Dated 21st September, 1888." Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 19:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Another Arbuthnot in the Royal Artillery - see the rather anonymous William Arbuthnot (artillery officer) (died 1876, and deleted), and the more distinguished Sir Charles George Arbuthnot GCB, 10 years his senior, who was a Captain in the RA in the Crimean War (kept). Perhaps this one is notable because he served in the Crimea in 1854 and then in India in 1857?  Perhaps his "series of senior adminstrative posts" would be notable, if we only knew what they were.  And what was the "Committee on Small Arms"?  Did it select a "new rifle", perhaps?  Which one - there are a number of candidates at British military rifles.  Clearly the honorary generalship is not sufficient.  On balance - Delete - unless evidence of hom doing something notable is added.  -- ALoan (Talk) 19:35, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


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