Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Vaughan (slaveholder)


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The result was Delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Henry Vaughan (slaveholder)

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This is not a notable guy, despite having (probably although not surely) had a town named after him. Naturally, there are a zillion people named "Henry Vaughan," even living in Mississippi. However, when enough filters are applied to be able to be sure that we're talking about this particular one, the number of sources drops precipitously and the discussion is very, very brief. One book says maybe the town was named after him (but maybe not), others are mere genealogical listings. &mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 23:06, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Wouldn't being the largest slaveholder in Mississippi make him notable? User:BlueBorealis — Preceding undated comment added 23:56, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, but I could be wrong. At any given time in Mississippi before 1865 someone was the largest slaveholder, so there were probably bunches of people who held that dubious distinction over the years.  Perhaps if there's sourcing one could write a list of largest slaveholders in Mississippi, but the problem here is that the article subject isn't discussed in reliable sources, so there's no way to gauge notability in the specific sense it's meant on Wikipedia (WP:N).&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 00:18, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Assertions like that might state a case for keeping this, if they can be verified in one or more reliable sources. But the only source cited so far, Masters of the Big House: Elite Slaveholders of the Mid-nineteenth-century South, seems (based on its index and a Google books internal search) to mention Vaughan only on a couple of lists, without substantive discussion.  --Arxiloxos (talk) 00:19, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Northern  Antarctica  ( T •  ₵  ) 02:32, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

 Calling Vaughn, Mississippi a "town" is very generous. It is not defined enough to even have a listed population on the census. It is an unincorporated community that is not a census-designated place. Delete I hate saying that for an article on someone in the 19th-century, when we have such an overabundance of articles on people born after 1945, but this guy really isn't notable at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:18, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - I left a message for User talk:BlueBorealis on April 1st telling them that Stephen Duncan was likely the largest slaveholder in Mississippi . Also, I was only able to find the online edition (with pages missing) of the book BlueBorealis cited  and was only able to find that Henry Vaughan, Sr., (1800 – 1870) was an American plantation owner born in South Carolina, who moved to Yazoo County, Mississippi where he grew cotton and held 293 slaves (page 471).  BlueBorealis added "he died in Vaughan, Mississippi, which he founded, five years after the cessation of hostilities."  I asked what page was this on, but have not had a response.  Dunbar Rowland doesn't mention him except to state his name .  This leaves us with a one-sentence article.  Magnolia677 (talk) 04:54, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
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